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Roll center

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BioMax   +1y
I can appreciate that... Keep me posted, I'm curious to see how it comes out.
GMracer   +1y
For sure, going to make a full scale model with some wood tomorrow just so Im not trying with something more permanent like my frame, haha. But I will post some pictures soon.
GMracer   +1y
So I redid the mockup more accurately, and made a full sclae model of the front suspension... here are my findings.

4.5" Ride Height, 275/40/20

If I leave the control arms in current position
UCA Angle is 20*
LCA 10*
Swing arm length is 64"
Roll Center height is -5/8"
With 6* neg camber laid out

Now if I move it up 1 3/8" like I plan
UCA 11*
LCA 5*
Swing Arm Length 103"
Roll Center Height +1/2"
With 5* Neg camber laid out
...when laid out my Swing arm becomes 39.5" with no noticable change in the roll center height. How does that sound.
BioMax   +1y
I like that a lot better. Another thing that excessive angle on the a-arms will cause in the corners is side scrub. That is cause when the track width is actually widening and narrowing as it runs through the travel.
GMracer   +1y
So that should be enough, no reason to lift it up more. I'm trying to move the motor up as little as possible.
BioMax   +1y
In a pure performance vehicle, you would design the suspension first, then worry about where everything else is going to fit, but on a street driven vehicle there are too many compromises that need to made to do that. I think that what you have will work well and will offer up plenty of performance (assuming that you use good shocks).
GMracer   +1y
the bag and shocks are all set, I was more worried about the geometry, and I think what I have will work perfect, at such a low ride height especially and if I want to drive a little higher it wouldn't be an issue, I get very little camber change as height is increase, maybe 1-2* positive then it hits 0* again right around max lift
retrodrag   +1y
Man, I can really appreciate how much thought and time your putting into all this! I am a senior mechanical engineer at the University of Portland and your getting into some serious engineering! Great job!, I always like to see people puttin some true engineering into their rides up front rather than slapping it together and dealing with the problems later.
GMracer   +1y
Yea, I already modified the stock frame 150hrs into it, it's perfect but I took it one step futher and started this full mandrel 2x4 chassis now.