http://www.streetsource.com/issues2/viewPhoto.aspx?Type=Magazine+Show+Coverage&Photo=/uploads/Ownerprofiles/notlowyet/113200864359PM1331.jpg&Thumbnail=%2fuploads%2fOwnerprofiles%2fnotlowyet%2f113200864359PM1331_tn.jpg You can see a 1"x2" arm pointing down a little even with the front of the upper arm. Hope that helps a bit.