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SOLUTION FOR NON CENTERED BAG ON LOWER 4LINK BAR

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gonz   +1y
buy or build 2 new bars with the bag bracket centered. just move the bar over a few inches.
davaflav   +1y


take the bags out. cut out a hole in the frame behind the bag to give the bag the extra room it will need. box it all in tuff.cut your lower brackets off. drill a hole in the  center of the bar to mount the bag. and redrill holes in the upper to move the bag then get a upper plate and put it under the upper bracket lined up with your new holes and plug weld through your old bracket to the upper circle plate so that your plate doesnt go weak from more holes.  then next month take that body kit off lolit is a really clean truck though
slammedxonair   +1y

Yea the easiest way to fix it without redoing the brackets or moving the lower bars would be to triangulate the lowers like mentioned above, that should stop the twisting.
gonz   +1y
even if you triangulate the bars the bags will still be off center on the bars and cause them to twist... he asked for the easiest way. that would be drill holes in the bars and get longer bolts and bolt the bag to the center of the bar. only problem is your gonna have to move the bars over toward the driveshaft to keep the bags from hitting the frame. which is alot easier than cutting all your brackets off and notching the side of your frame and plating etc... and also easier than redoing your entire backhalf for a triangulated setup.... good luck
loudciv   +1y
Edited: 8/26/2009 8:15:50 PM by loudciv

---------------------------------------------Originally posted by gonzeven if you triangulate the bars the bags will still be off center on the bars and cause them to twist... he asked for the easiest way. that would be drill holes in the bars and get longer bolts and bolt the bag to the center of the bar. only problem is your gonna have to move the bars over toward the driveshaft to keep the bags from hitting the frame. which is alot easier than cutting all your brackets off and notching the side of your frame and plating etc... and also easier than redoing your entire backhalf for a triangulated setup.... good luck---------------------------------------------

 ummm, adding the a triangulated leg off the lower bar is what keeps them from twisting. control arms dont twist... if you just wanna add a "fix" to the problem run a leg off like drgn bdy suggested. if you can cut off the lower bar mountss & shift them over so the bag is centered. use a longer bolt & bolt them directly thru the bar.
AVTekk   +1y

100% dont "triangulate" the lower bars. it turns them into control arms like adam said and will stop you from getting articulation in the rear without major binding. davaflav has the best idea.
gonz   +1y
---------------------------------------------Originally posted by loudcivEdited: 8/26/2009 8:15:50 PM by loudciv---------------------------------------------Originally posted by gonzeven if you triangulate the bars the bags will still be off center on the bars and cause them to twist... he asked for the easiest way. that would be drill holes in the bars and get longer bolts and bolt the bag to the center of the bar. only problem is your gonna have to move the bars over toward the driveshaft to keep the bags from hitting the frame. which is alot easier than cutting all your brackets off and notching the side of your frame and plating etc... and also easier than redoing your entire backhalf for a triangulated setup.... good luck---------------------------------------------

 ummm, adding the a triangulated leg off the lower bar is what keeps them from twisting. control arms dont twist... if you just wanna add a "fix" to the problem run a leg off like drgn bdy suggested. if you can cut off the lower bar mountss & shift them over so the bag is centered. use a longer bolt & bolt them directly thru the bar.--------------------------------------------- this idea is assinine. why not just remove the entire setup and run a 2 link? and no control arms dont flex, because the pressure is in the center of the 3 triangulated points. mount a bag on the outer edge of a control arm and watch your bushings go to shit.
slammedxonair   +1y
Edited: 8/26/2009 10:33:12 PM by slammed x on air

 What? If the arm is triangulated properly so the bag is still in a center between the triangulated part it shouldn't wear out bushings any worse than a conrtol arm. As for articulation the majority of that comes at the rearend bushings. Hence why superpivots should be ran on the rearend unless its in a wishbone setup. I was throwing this idea around with 6 link bars on my explorer, but i just ended up redoing my upper link bars.

mindlissmetalfab   +1y
^^it wont allow enough side to side flex  I'm wondering how your upper bars arent toasting bushings as well with the bar ends like 30° different horizontally on each end of the bar. 
davaflav   +1y
---------------------------------------------Originally posted by gonz---------------------------------------------Originally posted by loudcivEdited: 8/26/2009 8:15:50 PM by loudciv---------------------------------------------Originally posted by gonzeven if you triangulate the bars the bags will still be off center on the bars and cause them to twist... he asked for the easiest way. that would be drill holes in the bars and get longer bolts and bolt the bag to the center of the bar. only problem is your gonna have to move the bars over toward the driveshaft to keep the bags from hitting the frame. which is alot easier than cutting all your brackets off and notching the side of your frame and plating etc... and also easier than redoing your entire backhalf for a triangulated setup.... good luck---------------------------------------------

 ummm, adding the a triangulated leg off the lower bar is what keeps them from twisting. control arms dont twist... if you just wanna add a "fix" to the problem run a leg off like drgn bdy suggested. if you can cut off the lower bar mountss & shift them over so the bag is centered. use a longer bolt & bolt them directly thru the bar.---------------------------------------------this idea is assinine. why not just remove the entire setup and run a 2 link? and no control arms dont flex, because the pressure is in the center of the 3 triangulated points. mount a bag on the outer edge of a control arm and watch your bushings go to shit.---------------------------------------------hahaha thankyou so muchi dont understand how people think sometimes. boxing in the side of your frame is going to be the easiest solution to your problemi mean cmon avtek even agrees with me. but thats becuase all daves are smart