just my thoughts on the whole thing

well mazdamandan, I think maybe thats part of the whole problem, not to make anyone mad or anything but we here in the states seem to have a tendency to worry about everyone elses feelings. to the extent of kepping our mouths shut. maybe this is what the world needs is for everyone to express their feelings. the ACLU and others have gotten us so beet down that we tend to forget that we have freedom of speech.. lets change gears, not to rant but picture this the romans convinced jesus to keep his mouth shut, bcause it might incite a riot or somethin. hmm, wonder where we as a world would b then??? also back to the war... I thank each and everyone of our solders also and knowing from experiance, when u sighn on the dotted line u blong to uncle sam... and i personally think allot of the blame for the situation can b laid at the feet of the media...hopefully i wont b kicked out for voicing my opinion..thanx Jeff also im glad someone has a site like this will b there in a week to donate my share..

ok i respect the power of free speach and just bitching about nothing (cuase i do it all the time), but what the hell are you complaining about. lol that was just a rant in tounges while typing. ilmao and the comment "when u sighn on the dotted line u blong to uncle sam... and i personally think allot of the blame for the situation can b laid at the feet of the media" is a bit far fetched once you sign that dotted line you then fall under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) not the amendments in the Consintution. the reason for that is becuase once your a service member you are to protect the Consintution so you don't get punished by it. the laws of the UCMJ are more strict than the Consintution. sooooo....a service meber loses the right of free speech, loses the right to bare arms, and so on and so on... it has nothing to do with the media. i hope this opens your eyes on some things. if that confused you please let me know so i can clear it up for you.

what is this even about?

i think it was just a rant. that's why i just commented on a portion of it.

still wondering what the "whole thing" is & why was it directed @ mazdamandan? best i can gather it has something to do with north of the border.....

ok guys first off hit the new topic button instead of the reply, was a long day at work. now to clear things up. was not aimed at mazdaman , was refering to his last comment under scarecrow's "please take time to read" topic. i was simply saying that mayb we should'nt worry so much about what others think when it comes to our religion.. we should b allowed the right to express ourselves, we should'nt feel pressured to not speak our bleifs.. thats what the freedom of speech thing was about. now, i know about the mcj im retired army.. been there done that. what i was tryin to express was the way that the media seems to take everything about the war and make it as dirty as possable. the same as they were doing with veitnam. not ment as a bitch towards anyone in the military,but instead at the media.. im bhind our troops 100% they do a hell of a job.. sorry i didnt make myself clear the 1st time.

just wondering.....thanks for clearing it up.....

hopefully this guy didnt get banned i hate to think that he would get banned for expressing his opinion

ha. y would we do that? ...this isnt a site like ssm. we dont just ban people.

LOL, I just read this post now.
I've been sick for a while or at work, and havent been checkin in. I mean I'm almost on here as much as Crazy Mikey, it would suck to get banned!
It's interesting how I made yall think with a little side point I was making.

Please.
Let me explain.

For me its all bout the golden rule, and doing my best to follow in Christs steps, and I dont expect everyone to share my views, and I would never force my ideals on anyone because that would also be unchristian, Jesus did not persecute anyone, instead he "called out " those who profess to be righteous, and proved to be tyrannical or unloving in their teachings. Unfortunately we see a lot of that and its done in his name, and those ones shall render their own account before the almighty.

So here it is, for me to be christian, I would go to jail, before I would enlist.
It's simple, I must obey god rather than men. I shall not kill. One of the ten commandments.

I would never say anything disrespecting the troops either. I have not and would never even join an antiwar protest. That would not be fair or respectful of others sacrifices.
Jesus said "I am no part of this world , just as you must not be any part of this world".
But, he also said "pay Ceasars things to ceasar and Gods things to God"
He made it clear in his teachings that God must be obeyed first, so if there is a conflict, I must put Gods principles first.

I value all of you weather we have differing lifestyles or opinions in our unique mini truckin brotherhood. ('love your nieghbour")
Ghandi said, (although not a christian) "If all men followed the counsel given by your christ at the sermon on the mount the world would be at peace".
I could go on forever, but I'll leave this last thought with whoever has bothered to read all of this, and managed to not take offense, what I wrote earlier sounds mushy to some but, I am a Man , I am not weak, I try to lead my life as an example of Christ, this is what it means to be christian. Its harder being different, of course nobody is perfect.
We all have to put up with our fellow humans at times. The only solution for war is peace, and that would mean tolerance and respect, the end of racism ,and terrorism to name a few, basically "to love your nieghbour". To end terror, we cannott carry on wars.
We must "turn the other cheek" and trust me, that is the hardest thing to do.
Please do not take this out of context, I hope anyone who reads this is pickin up , what I'm tryin to put down.
Dan