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Blown head gasket

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black   +1y
I blew my head gasket i was wondering if i changed the head gasket what precautionary measures i should take to make sure i havent serious messed anything up and what i should o to make things functional again please any help is greatly appreciated
Cusser   +1y
First, you better figure out WHY the head gasket blew, like did you overheat the engine, have a cooling issue, etc.

If you don't know and fix that, it will likely happen again.

Do you want to do drop the oil pan and do new piston rings while you're "in" that far? I would (and did, October 2011). Are you getting the cylinder head checked for straightness or are re-macining it? Use Fel-Pro or Mazda head gasket, and re-torque the head bolts in 500 miles.
black   +1y
Im not really sure why it blew could have been the previous owner didnt take care of it well or an under cooling issue but i do plan on machining the head for straightness and i am on a budget
87forever   +1y
My exact thoughts what caused it.Did you over heat,or was it a oil leak etc.Btw I am IN greensboro myself so,if you would like maybe a little more assistance or lookover I could possibly help you out.You can pm me if you like.Ok
Cusser   +1y
Everyone is on a budget, but important to do it right.

I suggest taking up 87forever on his offer !!!
mercilessltd   +1y
I'm sure my tips below may get some berating for bad practice from some members, so please take this post for what it is: my opinion.

Well, my experience is that, as Cusser said, everyone is on a budget.

I personally just finished my head gasket about a month ago. I definitely suggest, as you said you are doing, to take the head to a reputable machine shop. This was the costliest part of my head gasket job.

For me, since I was on a very tight budget, I knew that the cooling issue was due to a blockage (and no temp gauge). I did fix these issues during the rebuild.

However, I did not remove the block from the truck. This may not be the option for everyone. It is a bit of a risk, and can be costly. I personally did not have the cash to get it rebuilt, so I first checked the best I could to ensure it was in good order. Otherwise, I would be wasting my money into a head gasket replacement.

NOTE: let all of the mineral spirits drain. Below I make many suggestions using mineral spirits. If you use any of these suggestions, ensure all mineral spirits have drained. Pull the oil plug for any that was in the cylinders or oil passages, and the lower water outlet (to the right of the harmonic balancer) will drain the cooling passages. I'd suggest giving the engine a day to allow all mineral spirits to drain. You can even flush the oil passages with some fresh oil.

If you decide to take this route, here are a few tips from my personal experience:

1. Make sure your rings are at least in decent order.

The best test with the head on is to do a compression test with and without oil. However, if your head gasket is cracked, this won't work. Instead, after head removal, you can use mineral spirits. Basically, turn the crank until all four pistons are halfway down/up. Fill each cylinder with mineral spirits to the top (for reference). Wait for an hour and check the cylinders. If the level hasn't moved, your compression rings should be good. If it has leaked just a hair, you should still be fine. If the spirits are gone, your rings are too.

2. Check your water pump.

While the head is off, your water pump should be visible. Obviously if this was the cause of the overheating, this doesn't apply as you should replace it. Otherwise, check for good rotation. Make sure there is no shaft play. Ensure all passages are clear of debris. You can again use mineral spirits to flush the cooling vanes. If you heard any whining from it earlier (indicative of bearings going out), replace it. If you saw any signs of leakage, at least re-do the gasket, but I highly suggest if you have it off, replace it.

3. Clean your head bolt holes while the head is off.

You always need to clean the bolt holes because debris will tamper with the torque readings. As being on a budget, I did not have any "old" head bolts or chasers (never use a tap!) to clean the threads. What I did was filled the bolt holes with mineral spirits (to loosen any debris), and cleaned them with pipe cleaners. This was time consuming, but worth it. I couldn't believe the amount of crap that came out of the bolt holes. I still STRONGLY suggest you chase the holes with a head bolt to double check, but at least this way you are fairly certain they're clean to start.

4. Clean your oil pan.

I didn't have the proper tools to remove the crossmember to remove the oil pan. Instead, after dousing the oil passages in mineral spirits (and leaving the oil plug open for drainage), I flushed about a quart of fresh oil through.

5. Check your alignment dowels.

I posted about this on BScene because I thought I had lost mine. Apparently they are known for recessing into the head (as mine had). You can always use wood dowels to align as you slide the head on, but the dowels will ensure proper placement. You can be a mm or two off without these, and that can be an issue with a head and gasket. Again, this is my opinion, others will tell you that it is okay. Your choice.

6. Replace your oil and coolant soon after.

Due to residual oil/water mixture and possible mineral spirits left over, I suggest that after a few miles of test drive and a few heat cycles, replace your coolant and oil. Yeah, it's another $40, but for someone who didn't have a garage or tools to remove and rebuild the engine, it's about the best way to flush the gunk out that you couldn't see/remove.

This is my experience and my opinions. Take them at your own risk.
Cusser   +1y
You can have decent compression like mine did (165 psi in all four) and still burn a decent amount of oil. I found my oil rings to be un-expanded, so they weren't scraping the cylinder walls on their way down.

I don't know if that was due to rings sticking, or that the ring steel lost its springiness over the years. And I didn't care, because now there's no smoke.

I'm confused about the crossmember removal, that was straightforward using a 1/2 breaker bar or ratchet. I think I put a small extneder bar over the handle for a little more leverage. I didn't use my 1/2 inch electric impact wrench on these either.
mercilessltd   +1y
Trying to not veer from the topic too much...

Heh, yeah, it's straightforward. Like I said, didn't have tools. I didn't have a proper jack/jackstand combo, no breaker bar, and no extender bar. Also, no garage. Not a necessity, but helps considering I currently have no storage beyond the cab of the truck (for parts mid-repair).

And yes, I agree. Compression rings and oil rings are two different things. My opinion during the head gasket job was oil rings can allow burn, but I wanted to ensure at least good compression, hence the mineral spirit test. (Fortunately all my rings appear to be in good order.)

Is there a way to test oil rings without removing the pistons during a head gasket job?
black   +1y
well got the head off look like i need a head anyone close to greensboro have one?
87forever   +1y
I talked with black tonight and working on what to do.His head has some pitting on the exh,intake side so might go with a used head when going to the machine shop just in case.I will lend a hand with the things I know already to help keep this as low cost and feasable to get this b back on the road.He has been busy so,maybe next wk I can take a look and get a good idea to help him out.Just updating and super nice guy!