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ported vs sealed box

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bodydropped   +1y
well im runnin to 2 memphis pr 15s in my truck i have them in a console that is a down fire but way we built it we did it as a sealed box with the right air space and it has alot of bass and im im pressed but i might end up redoin it and tryin to put 3 15s in my truck but 15s do hit a little harder but i dont know what #s my truck hits but before i went to 15s i had 4 12s and i was hittin 136 at dash
CHOSN1   +1y
Originally posted by rickster6924



Man that link fucking sucks it don't even show his system.

Thanks for your 2 cents worth. So, maybe the one asking the question could get in touch with Brent and see what he did since he owns a Caprice also..
lower   +1y
ported all the way
cyberskitzy   +1y
This gets asked a heaps on forums here in Aust, here's how you find out. You need to calculate your woofers Efficiency Bandwidth Product (EBP).

Get your subwoofers T/S spec's and look up its Qes & Fs, then perform the following calculation:

EBP = 1/Qes * Fs

Now that you have you EBP, you know what your speaker is suitable for !

If the EBP is 100 or more, its best for Ported boxes. (And 6th order bandpass) If the EBP is 50 or less, its best for Sealed boxes. (And 4th order bandpass) If the EBP is between 50 & 100, it will work in Either style boxes. (And either style bandpass)

Whats Qes ? Qes is the speaker's Q at resonance, due to electrical losses. Whats Fs ? Fs is the drivers free air resonance, in Hz. This is the point where driver impedance is highest.

How is tuning achieved ?

Tuning is a function of box size, port size & port length.

Generally: Bigger box = lower tuning (smaller = higher) Bigger port area = higher tuning (smaller = lower) Longer port = lower tuning (shorter = higher)

Thats pretty general, because its all relational too. IE. A small box needs longer ports to tune to the same frequency as a large box. You also need to take into account port size in relation to woofer size, as if its too small it will make a hissing "choof" noise.

How do I calculate if my vents to small ?

Visit this page http://www.carstereo.com/help/Articles.cfm?id=4 They have a handy little vent mach calculator. As they recommend, try to keep the Mach Percentage under 10% to eliminate any port noise. (If you click File -> Save As you can save it to your computer to access it offline)

What frequency should I tune to ?

Depends on what your doing. I like to tune enclosures to around 40-45hz for daily driving & playing music LOUD. For SPL you may want to tune higher, say 50-55hz (depending on your car, get it on a meter & test). For SQ and bowel loosening lows, tune low, say 30-35hz.

How do I know how big a box to use ?

As a general rule of thumb, the following sized woofers work best in these sized enclosures for most situations:

8" = 0.7 to 1.0 cubes 10" = 1.2 to 1.5 cubes 12" = 1.7 to 2.5 cubes 15" = 3.0 to 4.5 cubes

What are Cubes ? This is the enclosure volume, measured in Cubic Feet. What if I have more than one woofer ? Multiply ! If you have 2 12"s, use 3.4 to 5 cubes. If you've got three, 5.1 to 7.5, etc. But I've got, for example, 2 12"s and can only fit 2.5 cubes, does that matter ? As I said, those recommendations work in most situations but sometimes you need to adapt. You can try them in 2.5 cubes, but you might not have enough room to fit a big enough port, or long enough port to tune the way you want ! In this case, you should also consider using less woofers, or smaller ones.

Putting it all together

Here's an example for a daily driving box I designed to suit a Commodore sedan.

A 40hz tune, in a 3.5 cube box to suit a single 12" can be achieved with:

Single 6" tube, 9" long Two 4" tubes, 9" long Single 6" X 6" X 12" (Width x Height x Length) square port

The two circular options give you the approximate same port area (25 sq.inch), hence are the same length. The box port gives you more port area (36 sq.inch), hence it is also longer to achieve the same tuning as the smaller area circulars.

Hey, isnt that box a bit big for a single 12" ? Again, those are only recommendations. A big car like a Commodore has a pretty low resonant frequency and boot space to burn, so the bigger box brings the tuning down a bit. The increased size of the box also add's to the efficiency of the system, so it'll be a bit louder. Big cars need big bass

Why would you use the larger area box port over the circulars ? Lower vent mach for better sound quality, and the larger port helps increase output too.

Whats the difference between a circular & square port, aside from the obvious ? Circular Pro's: Easier (just cut some PVC) More efficient air flow (especially if you use Aero flared ends)

Circular Con's: Less efficient use of space Large sizes can be hard to find or expensive

Square Pro's: More efficient use of space Stronger (depending on how you build them)

Square Con's: Fiddly to make Less efficient air flow (sharp corners etc)

Whats a slot port ? A square port which uses a wall of the enclosure as part of port. This makes the enclosure stronger (it acts as a brace) and also makes the port shorter. Check in my enclosure building tutorial for a link to a slot port calculator.

What type of port is better ? Neither is "better", as each kind has its pro's and con's. Choose which evers pro's are most applicable to your situation, and con's are negligable. Eg. if space is at a premium and you need a large port, slots are hard to beat. If you're after efficiency and only need a small port, use circulars.
dirtyjdizzle   +1y
ported is known to be louder, sealed is more for a Sound quality install, if you want loud go for ported tho the box is gonna be a bit bigger
suicidedoor86   +1y
Depending on which subs you are getting a ported box will produce a far narrower bandwidth and to sound good they need a steep crossover slope.I had 4-15 inch jlw3 and 1200 watts to each,tuned it to 35hz and crossed it over with marchand xm-16 x overs with 48db per octave slopes and it produced deep smooth sounding bass believe it or not.I also had 30 band eq's.Of course the volume had to be low enough to sound good.Therefore a sealed box is pretty hard to fuck up and you cant argue with the bass response.You will be happy with a sealed if you give the subs a lot of power.