UPDATE ON THE B/D RAM ON 26'S

Originally posted by pmiller



I just wanted to know what your reasoning for switching. I know a great deal about both setups. Air and hydraulics. I'm a diesel technician. And alot of the dependability is the quality of products used and the quality of the installation. Trucks have air ride and it looks like you were using a bag similar in size to a truck. I don't want to get into a discussion about which is best or more dependable either. It's just your statement was a little shocking to hear. Usually you hear someone say that the other way around. I love hydros and would personally love to see them used more. I really admire your work to the Ram and wish you good luck. I can't wait to see more pics of the progress and pics of the final job. Good luck!

Derek(Big Dee) The bubble does need some juice!The air is limitting my options and the fact that I can't use a 1:1 ratio is putting a lot of stress on the whole front set-up. It's taking over 175psi to lift and 225psi to max it out with an 11 inch bag. The bag is only rated at 100psi so I was worried about killing Tweeter and his family. The rear will start to lift at 12psi and ride at 30psi. I know the hydros can handle the weight.

cant wait to see it done

i still wish i could afford running juice.

Edited: 9/12/2008 4:16:38 PM by UnusualFabrication

Originally posted by PatFukenBurke



Originally posted by pmiller



I just wanted to know what your reasoning for switching. I know a great deal about both setups. Air and hydraulics. I'm a diesel technician. And alot of the dependability is the quality of products used and the quality of the installation. Trucks have air ride and it looks like you were using a bag similar in size to a truck. I don't want to get into a discussion about which is best or more dependable either. It's just your statement was a little shocking to hear. Usually you hear someone say that the other way around. I love hydros and would personally love to see them used more. I really admire your work to the Ram and wish you good luck. I can't wait to see more pics of the progress and pics of the final job. Good luck!

Derek(Big Dee) The bubble does need some juice!The air is limitting my options and the fact that I can't use a 1:1 ratio is putting a lot of stress on the whole front set-up. It's taking over 175psi to lift and 225psi to max it out with an 11 inch bag. The bag is only rated at 100psi so I was worried about killing Tweeter and his family. The rear will start to lift at 12psi and ride at 30psi. I know the hydros can handle the weight.

Thats alot different than say you are changing over to hydraulics for dependability.

A lever setup with a good ratio would usually take less psi to lift, which is why the ride softer. Maybe something is binding or not really engineered properly? Either way, i hope I can get to SEMA and see it in person.

Dependability is exactly why I'm switching it over. I can do a much more dependable set up with the juice than the air.

Originally posted by iLLblazer



A lever setup with a good ratio would usually take less psi to lift, which is why the ride softer. Maybe something is binding or not really engineered properly? Either way, i hope I can get to SEMA and see it in person.

Kind of what I was thinking but I was threading lightly as to avoid being attacked about my knowledge of chassis and suspension design.

Originally posted by iLLblazer



A lever setup with a good ratio would usually take less psi to lift, which is why the ride softer. Maybe something is binding or not really engineered properly? Either way, i hope I can get to SEMA and see it in person.The problem is I need more lift than the bag has and I have to use a negative lift ratio. The set up I have now would work fine if I went to a triple convoluted bag and replaced the rubber bushings with bearings. But why go through all that trouble when I can just switch over to hydraulics. Less moving parts to maintain. Besides it

Are you going to change the cantilever setup in the front? I'm just trying to picture how you'd use a cylinder with a spring on that setup. Are you going to use a regular auto hydro style cylinder or something bigger or more industrial? I can picture a cylinder being used with that setup but an accumulator would have to be used. I just can't wait to see what you come up with.