Stepping control arms...Anyone have pics?

Does anyone have pics of stepped control arms (at the ball joint) I know there was an article in mini truckin...I just don't know what issue.  I have searched this site for pics but can't find anything. ThanksChris

theres some pics on my profile for my old 02 s10

You are aware of the geometry issues that this will induce to your front end, correct?  Not trying to be a prick, just want to make sure you are informed before you fire up the old Sawzall.

--------------------------------------------- Originally posted by maz duh You are aware of the geometry issues that this will induce to your front end, correct?  Not trying to be a prick, just want to make sure you are informed before you fire up the old Sawzall. --------------------------------------------- You can perform this mod with zero change in geometry.

---------------------------------------------Originally posted by nigels world---------------------------------------------Originally posted by maz duhYou are aware of the geometry issues that this will induce to your front end, correct?  Not trying to be a prick, just want to make sure you are informed before you fire up the old Sawzall.---------------------------------------------You can perform this mod with zero change in geometry. ---------------------------------------------You're basically building a drop control arm correct?

yes you are basically making a drop arm. There really are no worries on geometry, only thing changed is the bind on the ball joint when it is on the ground

---------------------------------------------Originally posted by nigels world---------------------------------------------Originally posted by maz duhYou are aware of the geometry issues that this will induce to your front end, correct?  Not trying to be a prick, just want to make sure you are informed before you fire up the old Sawzall.---------------------------------------------You can perform this mod with zero change in geometry. --------------------------------------------- If you move the pivot point of the lower balljoint upwards while leaving all of the remaining pivot points the same you have made a change in the geometry, study the Akerman sticky and you will see what I'm talking about. Some trucks will react to this type of mod with more negative effects than others , increased bumpsteer will be the most common issues asociated with this operation. Drop spindles are typically the better bet as they retain the factory geometry in the front end as much as possible. I do however understand that they are not available for every truck out there and that sometimes stepping the arm is an option for people in these cases. An alternative would be a custom drop knuckle which could get pricey if you have to farm out the fab work to someone else but is worth it all the way.   

Edited: 6/27/2009 10:33:15 PM by SoloSpecialties

lmao..are you talkin about somethin like this?   or this?   <a href="http://s44.photobucket.com/albums/f1/low93ck/?action=view&current=CIMG0734-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f1/low93ck/CIMG0734-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> yea,top quality shit right there,go for it......   just get spindles,way cheaper then hackin up ur arms in the end...

go on and talk some more shit about my arms man.  no i'm not some suspension designer, but the truck doesn't have any bumpsteer, alignment, or camber problems.   if you take a close look you'll see that my lower arms have the same angled profile as a set of tubulars available at SD, blf, wherever. sure they're not as pretty, but niether is an s10 frame full of mounting holes and covered in brackets.

Edited: 6/27/2009 11:38:18 PM by sadexcuse4s10

cutting up stock arms to lay a truck out on big rims is what got companies started on building control arms to lay trucks out.  how else would they have designed the jigs for the tubular arms if there wasn't a cut up stocker to test with. camber when laid out, around 5 degrees         and it gets enough lift to clear the fenders by 1" on level ground.  even after the tires stick above the fenders by 1 1/2" when laid out.  that's a shitload of travel for just some hacked up arms