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---------------------------------------------Originally posted by SoloSpecialtiesi think this section should happen,since there isnt a "Ask Fraser" anymore...make it happen mods,lol. i have ALOT of P&B questions i could ask,since im tryin to get into it and all.---------------------------------------------we have talked about this, but there are just to many paint and body guys on here to let one guy handle it all.

---------------------------------------------Originally posted by KEEFI like to epoxy prime all plastic once its cleaned cleaned cleaned, sanded, cleaned cleaned cleaned......... epoxy bites into plastic better than anything else ive ever tried and will not delam even in extreme heat. Once its epoxied and cured i sand with 180 and put 2 coats of 2k primer on then block and paint as normal ---------------------------------------------Have you ever used elastic primer?

I havent lowmaz never heard of it actually

interesting, i googled it. seems dupont makes it. its Priomat® Elastic Primer 3304. cant pull up the pdf tho.

Edited: 8/31/2009 9:51:09 PM by slammedcivicsi

ive never heard of elastic primer....ive heard of Sikkens Elastoactiv adative for their primer surfacer. The thing everyone seems to forget is there are more than 1 kind of primer. There is primers, primer surfacers, and primer sealers. All which have differnt properties and prep.

james I read the PDF file on it, is a product by spies hecker, and it simply appears to be an adhesion promoter. You still need to topcoat with a primer surfacer, this is not a sandable, buildable product from what I can gather. If there is one thing I have learned from spraying dupont for many years, its that they have a stupid name for almost everything, that tends to bastardize the product it is supposed to describe. -Brad

I dont like to use epoxy because it dosent sand as easy as elastic primer(surfacer). yes it is a spies-hecker product, and it also has different ways that you can reduce it depending on how u want the product to work. It worked really well for me on my interior and you can donkey kick the panels and dont have to worry about the paint because it is flexible. I simply used a Rally matte Black over top as my base.

---------------------------------------------Originally posted by low99mazI dont like to use epoxy because it dosent sand as easy as elastic primer(surfacer). yes it is a spies-hecker product, and it also has different ways that you can reduce it depending on how u want the product to work. It worked really well for me on my interior and you can donkey kick the panels and dont have to worry about the paint because it is flexible. I simply used a Rally matte Black over top as my base.---------------------------------------------depends what epoxy u use. different epoxies sand different. ppg dplf sucks balls to sand.   i havent used the spies epoxy. but ive used sem dtm epoxy. sands well. hok sands welll.  spi epoxy sands well. sikkens and lesonal epoxies sand well. and this aircraft epoxy ive been using for interior shit lately sands really really well.  just with epoxies u need to let them sit for a few days before blocking. but then they powder soooo fuckin nice.

3300 is spies elastic primer activated by 3301. 3304 is just and adhesion promoter like bulldog except 10x better. there 2k system 5400 series is a color system which when u add 9050 elastic addative (flex) to make it flexable to fill texture. you can also add 9050 to your clear to flex it. any questions on dupont/spies/nason just ask im a sales rep.

---------------------------------------------Originally posted by drag4life093300 is spies elastic primer activated by 3301. 3304 is just and adhesion promoter like bulldog except 10x better. there 2k system 5400 series is a color system which when u add 9050 elastic addative (flex) to make it flexable to fill texture. you can also add 9050 to your clear to flex it. any questions on dupont/spies/nason just ask im a sales rep.---------------------------------------------using a primer to fill texture almost always shrinks back over the texture over time with curing. it needs to be sanded out. especially chevy and newer toyota texture.  i might have used one of the products u mentioned.... a guy who was kind of compition need help painting a few rhinos he was getting backed up on. so i went and helped him out...  he had a speis sealer for plastic and we skpped an adpro.    i didnt pull it up once... adhesion was good. i just dont buy into flexiable products.  to me there a gimmick. not lasting.