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mjavy7
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If I was to drop off a car just like this one to you for the same set up. How much will it cost me out the door?
AON-OFFDAHOOK
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---------------------------------------------Originally posted by MJAVY7If I was to drop off a car just like this one to you for the same set up. How much will it cost me out the door?---------------------------------------------
Just over 4k including the 3 kinetiks, install, gauges, hardline and everything else.
---------------------------------------------Originally posted by MJAVY7If I was to drop off a car just like this one to you for the same set up. How much will it cost me out the door?---------------------------------------------
Just over 4k including the 3 kinetiks, install, gauges, hardline and everything else.
shavedmax
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---------------------------------------------Originally posted by nyccustomizerYeah I was looking at the threaded ball cup. Thats a great idea. Teflon liner is self lubricating. I just wonder the life span of it under full load and rough roads. Here in NY i am always weary of trying something new. When the roads wreak havoc on OE equipment parts anytime you build something custom you have to be sure its capable of what the streets and customers are going to dish out. I love being innovative, but hate dealing with the consequences.The way the TL is set up im guessing it can be noisy over rough roads with alot of suspension movement. How do the heims wear? Noisy as well after they wear in. I know you have seen all types of seal wear ranging from 6 months to 2 1/2 years but I cant see anything being worse than a car going over the constant dips and bumps of streets like NY. I mean there isnt a flat road anywhere here. How do you sell a suspension to someone and telll them, well we may have to rebuild these cylinders in 6 months? if your lucky a year... Unless they come to you wanting hydraulics and are already aware of the necessary maintenance I see that as a trouble spot for me. My customers are coming to me and expecting to receieve OE type ride and reliability and for the most part I have been capable of giving them that so far. When the cars you build are layed out, do you always allow the suspension to support the car instead of sitting on the tires? I know this TL install sits on the suspension. Is the cylinder supporting it while being fully compressed? How does that affect cylinder life. I always try to lay a car so that it drives when dropped so I dont get any late night calls saying im stuck in the middle of the road... come get me. Last, we always say our cars ride great. Realistically, we are saying they are riding great for a car with either the size rims and tires we have on them such as 20's or 22's on a car and 26's on a truck. Harshness is always expected and we accept it based on the levels of customizing that we have done. I really have to just get a ride in a car that was done properly. Who knows, maybe I will get someone that is interested in going lower than airstruts will go these days and I will opt for a set-up like this. Then Ill ask for your advice. Thanks for answering all my questions. Seeing your installs has intriqued me. Its great to see someone building Hydraulic components for a more modern platform as opposed to the same old nasty stuff thats been out there forever. Every car with hydraulics I have ever worked on is coated with grease and oil. Its pretty nasty. thats why I have never wanted to get into it. I cant stand OIL... AIR is my thing right now. i'm a NYer too . i doubt that your customers are driving their car year round(i havent driven mine on a month and a half) so the winter abuse should be minimal. plus anyone who has had a custom car up here knows that its not your daily. when going over a setup for a potential customer i would hope that you explain the ups and downs of the equiptment you're about to install(pun intended). i have to correct every a$$ that thinks that i have air and explain how juice is different, and i'm not trying to sell them a setup. i've installed hydros in 2 of my cars 4 times( learning how to do it better each time). most of the customer problems you'll have are from customers abusing the car. i know people who have bent unibodies 3 wheeling them. my first car had the rear wheelwells cut out and i never twisted the car. i also didnt abuse it. you have alot less of a chance of people doing that with air. easier install, easier maintenance, but compressors crap out, tanks explode, lines leak, valves stick, you have to drain the water out of the tanks, you have to listen to the compressor going off as soon as you play with it, limited lift, etc. if you're intrigued by it then install it on your own car first before using a customer as a guinney pig. but if you hate oil, then juice is not for you. even if your system doesnt leak, when you change seals you're going to get oil all over the place. if you know how to contain it, just like when you change the motor oil you should be fine. i'm waiting for someone to design a height sensing system so i caqn have my car aligned and always have it at the right alignment. that's all thats missing from hydraulics that air has.---------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------Originally posted by nyccustomizerYeah I was looking at the threaded ball cup. Thats a great idea. Teflon liner is self lubricating. I just wonder the life span of it under full load and rough roads. Here in NY i am always weary of trying something new. When the roads wreak havoc on OE equipment parts anytime you build something custom you have to be sure its capable of what the streets and customers are going to dish out. I love being innovative, but hate dealing with the consequences.The way the TL is set up im guessing it can be noisy over rough roads with alot of suspension movement. How do the heims wear? Noisy as well after they wear in. I know you have seen all types of seal wear ranging from 6 months to 2 1/2 years but I cant see anything being worse than a car going over the constant dips and bumps of streets like NY. I mean there isnt a flat road anywhere here. How do you sell a suspension to someone and telll them, well we may have to rebuild these cylinders in 6 months? if your lucky a year... Unless they come to you wanting hydraulics and are already aware of the necessary maintenance I see that as a trouble spot for me. My customers are coming to me and expecting to receieve OE type ride and reliability and for the most part I have been capable of giving them that so far. When the cars you build are layed out, do you always allow the suspension to support the car instead of sitting on the tires? I know this TL install sits on the suspension. Is the cylinder supporting it while being fully compressed? How does that affect cylinder life. I always try to lay a car so that it drives when dropped so I dont get any late night calls saying im stuck in the middle of the road... come get me. Last, we always say our cars ride great. Realistically, we are saying they are riding great for a car with either the size rims and tires we have on them such as 20's or 22's on a car and 26's on a truck. Harshness is always expected and we accept it based on the levels of customizing that we have done. I really have to just get a ride in a car that was done properly. Who knows, maybe I will get someone that is interested in going lower than airstruts will go these days and I will opt for a set-up like this. Then Ill ask for your advice. Thanks for answering all my questions. Seeing your installs has intriqued me. Its great to see someone building Hydraulic components for a more modern platform as opposed to the same old nasty stuff thats been out there forever. Every car with hydraulics I have ever worked on is coated with grease and oil. Its pretty nasty. thats why I have never wanted to get into it. I cant stand OIL... AIR is my thing right now. i'm a NYer too . i doubt that your customers are driving their car year round(i havent driven mine on a month and a half) so the winter abuse should be minimal. plus anyone who has had a custom car up here knows that its not your daily. when going over a setup for a potential customer i would hope that you explain the ups and downs of the equiptment you're about to install(pun intended). i have to correct every a$$ that thinks that i have air and explain how juice is different, and i'm not trying to sell them a setup. i've installed hydros in 2 of my cars 4 times( learning how to do it better each time). most of the customer problems you'll have are from customers abusing the car. i know people who have bent unibodies 3 wheeling them. my first car had the rear wheelwells cut out and i never twisted the car. i also didnt abuse it. you have alot less of a chance of people doing that with air. easier install, easier maintenance, but compressors crap out, tanks explode, lines leak, valves stick, you have to drain the water out of the tanks, you have to listen to the compressor going off as soon as you play with it, limited lift, etc. if you're intrigued by it then install it on your own car first before using a customer as a guinney pig. but if you hate oil, then juice is not for you. even if your system doesnt leak, when you change seals you're going to get oil all over the place. if you know how to contain it, just like when you change the motor oil you should be fine. i'm waiting for someone to design a height sensing system so i caqn have my car aligned and always have it at the right alignment. that's all thats missing from hydraulics that air has.---------------------------------------------
mjavy7
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---------------------------------------------Originally posted by AON-OFFDAHOOK---------------------------------------------Originally posted by MJAVY7If I was to drop off a car just like this one to you for the same set up. How much will it cost me out the door?---------------------------------------------
Just over 4k including the 3 kinetiks, install, gauges, hardline and everything else.
---------------------------------------------hummmm...interesting....thinking of my next family car. The hardest part would be getting it to you since I am in Florida.
---------------------------------------------Originally posted by AON-OFFDAHOOK---------------------------------------------Originally posted by MJAVY7If I was to drop off a car just like this one to you for the same set up. How much will it cost me out the door?---------------------------------------------
Just over 4k including the 3 kinetiks, install, gauges, hardline and everything else.
---------------------------------------------hummmm...interesting....thinking of my next family car. The hardest part would be getting it to you since I am in Florida.
tre5
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Florida to AZ shipping is about $800. Ship it out, I will do it and a week later you can fly out and spend a couple days driving it back. Also, I will not do the exact same setup twice. So if someone were to ask to have the same exact setup it will be similar, but I like to make sure each one is different.
Florida to AZ shipping is about $800. Ship it out, I will do it and a week later you can fly out and spend a couple days driving it back. Also, I will not do the exact same setup twice. So if someone were to ask to have the same exact setup it will be similar, but I like to make sure each one is different.
mjavy7
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---------------------------------------------Originally posted by fusion1488^^^^^^ AMEN TO THAT i dont want another TL runnin around with my exact setup!!!! ---------------------------------------------I hear you but you dont have to worry about it the deal I was considering did not go tru so no TL 4 me. At least for now.
---------------------------------------------Originally posted by fusion1488^^^^^^ AMEN TO THAT i dont want another TL runnin around with my exact setup!!!! ---------------------------------------------I hear you but you dont have to worry about it the deal I was considering did not go tru so no TL 4 me. At least for now.
