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flipped ball joints, bad?

Mazda Lowering Static Mazda Suspension Mazda Tech
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gravity5   +1y



Yes a lot of stuff we do is dangerous, and in many cases not roadworthy.....Hell just go to the local show anywhere and there are at least 2 - 3 trucks that look cool from afar, but wehn you walk up it's like WTF is this thing doing on the road....

Now I am not saying flipped BJ's is gonna kill you, far from it, as long as you use NEW, high grade metric bolts you should be fine, check them every now and then...

But the point is I guess that we, as a collaborative group of people should really evaluate the things we do, because in most cases there is no need for a MOD, to be dangerous.

(Now that I am done ranting like my father let me just say this.....I still think its cool, and fun as hell to rail 10 trucks at the same time down the freeway, just proving I am not a total prude. HAHAHAHAHA)
projektteknek   +1y
just make sure the balljoints r in good shape and like everyone else said us grade 8 bolts, ull be fine
southernrazed   +1y
If you put a plate on the bottom of the arm to redistribute the weight it will help aleviate some of the stresses
balcar   +1y
i've had it done on a truck since 95ish, and never had a problem. Thats also using the factory bolts. Now, i woudn't go trying to jump the truck after that... well heck, i was hoping the front in another truck a few years ago, only a few inches, and it still held. i guess no more baha racing with the mazda.
crazymikey   +1y
I had mine done and we reused the factory bolts except for the upper ball joints where we broke the bolts when taking them apart so we put new bolts in. So far in a month of driving it,haven't had any problems,and I didn't need to get an alignent either. Let go of the wheel and my truck tracks dead straight. I haven't had any problems with my suspension yet,but I keep an eye on everything so it doesn't unexpectedly fall apart on me. I do lots of highway driving with my truck travelling around 90-100kmh,so something breaking at that speed could be catastrophic,but that's a risk I'm willing to take while looking cool doing it. haha
crazymikey   +1y


No it's not.

However,from seeing pics of your truck,it does sit real nice on the Pathys.
dimotorsports   +1y
I've seen and read this post like 4 times now.... since it was first posted.

Dude you are not going to have a problem with flipped ball joints!

Do it right, and it's worth doing. Do a half ass job, and expect trouble.
That's true with everything.

Trim your arms nice and clean. Buy new grade 8 harware. Inspect your joints. Done.

My 87 B2000 was flipped, for like 4 yrs, without one issue, and that was back in 90. My current project is flipped top and bottom.

Pleanty of people do it, without issue.
Your mechanic is wrong. Hell... most mechanics are wrong.
If it's not factory, they don't know anything about it.
I can't tell you how many times I have had mechanics BS me around, only to find out they were wrong.

Sure it's not perfect. The geometry will be different... but that is what lowering your truck does. No, it wasn't designed that way, but that doesn't mean it's the only way it can be done.

Don't get me wrong... I'm not bitchin' at you.. your asking for advise... your mechanic, and mechanics like him are who aggrivate me. A narrow minded mechanic will never own a streetrod, a mini, a tuner, etc. .... all because it's not FACTORY.

Factory Blows - Silly Mechanic!

Okay - I'll stop ranting now.
mazdamandan   +1y
I totally agree, they would rather everything stock and never do anything cool that requires thought all of the mechanics up here are like that.

So everyone stop what yer doing, and dont drop anything and return everything to stock ..............., yeah , right.

BJ's have never caused any accidents I know of, except for when they were in stock installation and failed.

If I had 1 person tell me they wrecked thier truck doing this I would listen but does anybody have proof????
crazymikey   +1y
Because a mechanic fixes something to make it correct again,not to 'mess it up' like we do.

I had an RX7 with manual steering,and I did an oil change the day before and spilled some oil down the side of the engine and onto the steering rack and I took the car in for a safety inspection and the mechanic goes "you have a power steering leak" and I'm like wtf,the car doesn't even have power steering and he says 'well there's oil all over your steering rack. That's probably why you don't have power steering." I just looked at him and I'm like ok,so if this car is power steering,then where's the pump and the lines?"

That stumped him and stopped him right in his tracks and a 40-something year old man didn't feel too good admitting he was wrong to an 18 year old kid at the time.