Front bag mounts?

I see most the lower bag mounts are at a pretty good angle when aired up? Could you make a hinge for the bottom plate? So it would swivel as it went up and down.

Simple answer: No.

The pressure in the bag will force that plate to max out in the direction the bag is bellowing. Meaning it will make the angle worse. You would have ot build a bell crank type setup below that pivot off of the control arm pivot to make it work, and there simply isn't enough room to make something like that work without sacrificing a lot of lift.

Just deal with it, the bags do and they have no problems. What you can do, is angle the plates in towards each other closer to the spindle, and the angle will not be as sever when it is lifted up.

I think it can be done, i've experimented a little but sold the 2 bags I was experimenting with. My experiments were testing the integrity of the bags when one end was allowed to pivot. I wanted to see if the bag was capable of supporting itself or if it had to be secured to non-moving brackets. There is a fair amount of room to play with, most of the interference issues come from the upper arm. If you accept the lower bag mounts as "thats just how it is", then you are going to have problems depending on how you use your truck, and what height you run it at. If the bag folds back on itself and pinches, thats bad, and of course if it rubs metal thats bad as well.

As far as the bellcrank idea.....hmmm thats got me thinking! I never considered that, I had made a cradle for the bottom bag mount to pivot in to see if the bag would bulge out like mentioned above. It stayed square during my test, I could only go to 160 psi. I never got to adapt the idea to the truck to test it there. If enough interest was generated I would probably be willing to go further with it. I had to put off my baggin plans last fall when I was laid off from work, but I want to try it again in the near future.

I am gonna start on it in the morning. I am really looking at raising my upper arm to help with the angle. Move the mount up on the frame to its not at such a steep angle. I will check the angles up and down i really want the lease amount of bag bind possible.

Moving the upper arm is not such a good idea. Changing suspension geometry isn't a good idea with adjustable suspension. But if you must....

That very problem is what had me tinkering with the front mounts. My buddy has blown 4 or 5 bags on his S-10 which has the same geometry problem. I wish you the best of luck, hey.....and post some pics of your changes.

You dont think dropping these trucks to the ground change them?? I am going to try and get the geometry back the same by raising the top arm....after flipping the balljoint it will raise the spindle so bringing the top up will only help it!!

Dropping them this far doesn't change the geometry. It just points the IC lower in the ground. Flipping the balljoint doesn't actually change the geometry, it just drops the arm down making it easier to lay out. The pivot points are still in the same spot and that is what matters. If you go around changing pivot points you're going to end up with some funny geometry. Likely moving the upper arm mount up on the frame will cause positive camber at lifted heights.

How the hell do you mount the plate to the A-arm and then bolt it to the bag? The bag plates dont line up with the 2 outer holes on the bag.

This is how myself and most people do the lower bag mount. Hope Seth doesn't mind i posted one of his pictures but I dont have any of mine. Also you just use the center bolt hole.