Control arms for rangers

ur missing the point. sure tube arms look a lot better then stamped steel. its a good thing the stock upper are tubed. have you ever modled and femed your control arms and compared then to the stock numbers. i think the stock ones will maintain in all stress catagories. the stock uppers are mad from solit tube while urs are made from hollow tube. i ma not saying yours are not strong because anything made with that tube is but i am saying that the stocks are just as strong if not stronger. no where near twice as strong..

also when using the stock arms you have a precesion fit which from reading the above posts your arms dont. i realize that your arms are made by hand so thiss little less precsion is acceptable to an extent. to say that poly busings are better then the stock busings is aslo only an oponion. if this was true then the factory would use them. remember engineers get payed a lot of money to design these type of things and a lot of time and money is invested in research and the fabrication of these parts. now having a ball joint break does suck and all that. sometimes the stock arms have to be altered to accomodate for this.

what i was trying to say is that stock arms are good if you are running small wheels and dont need your spindle to go as high as someone with big wheels. all the arms on the market for these rangers do not provide any additional drop or anythign like that to assist in making it easier to lay in contrast to an s10 drop spindle or full size lowering arms. DJM claims that there arms are loweirng arms but if you install the arms with the stock springs the truck does not seem any lower to me.

JUST A NOTE --- PEOPLE ON HERE ARE SAYING STOCKS ARMS DONT LOOK AS GOOD AS TUBULAR ARMS ---- BUT STOCK RANGER UPPERS ARE TUBULAR --- DUUUUUUUHHHHHHH !!!! --- AND AS FAR AS STOCK ARMS BEING UNSAFE ---- I THINK NOT!!! ---- HELL IF THEY BRAKE FOR SOME UNFORSEEN CIRCUMSTANCE --- THATS DEALER SHIT ---- NOW IF YOU GET CUSTOM ARMS FROM A SHOP AND THE WELDS HAPPEN TO BRAKE --- DOES THE COMPANY PAY FOR THE VEHICLE DAMAGES -- I THINK NOT !!! ---- JUST THROWIN A LITTLE SOMETHING FOR YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT ----- ALSO MY BUDDIES GOT STOCK ARMS RUNNING 20'S AND LAYS DOOR ON HIS RANGER --- IT GETS JUST ENOUGH LIFT AND TUCKS JUST FINE --- IT DOES MAX OUT ON THE FRAME THOUGH --- SO I SAY THEN YOU MIGHT NEED CUSTOM ARMS -- MY TWO CENTS -- PEACE !!!

from the situation of my stock uppers with the 20s i would have to say that laying on 20s with stock uppers and lowers without zing the frame or rasing the upper mounts is almost impoossible. my upper arm is totally in a verticle position when it is deflated and it is not laying. there is no where for the arm to move to to make it go lower..it is totally maxed out...

Originally posted by BAGD RANGER



JUST A NOTE --- PEOPLE ON HERE ARE SAYING STOCKS ARMS DONT LOOK AS GOOD AS TUBULAR ARMS ---- BUT STOCK RANGER UPPERS ARE TUBULAR --- DUUUUUUUHHHHHHH !!!! --- AND AS FAR AS STOCK ARMS BEING UNSAFE ---- I THINK NOT!!! ---- HELL IF THEY BRAKE FOR SOME UNFORSEEN CIRCUMSTANCE --- THATS DEALER SHIT ---- NOW IF YOU GET CUSTOM ARMS FROM A SHOP AND THE WELDS HAPPEN TO BRAKE --- DOES THE COMPANY PAY FOR THE VEHICLE DAMAGES -- I THINK NOT !!! ---- JUST THROWIN A LITTLE SOMETHING FOR YOU GUYS TO THINK ABOUT ----- ALSO MY BUDDIES GOT STOCK ARMS RUNNING 20'S AND LAYS DOOR ON HIS RANGER --- IT GETS JUST ENOUGH LIFT AND TUCKS JUST FINE --- IT DOES MAX OUT ON THE FRAME THOUGH --- SO I SAY THEN YOU MIGHT NEED CUSTOM ARMS -- MY TWO CENTS -- PEACE !!!

its the balljoint binding thats the weak spot, the balljoint binds then breaks. thats not dealer anything, thats whoever modified the suspension.

stock lowers are not very precise either. they use rubber bushings that are in now way precise. they barely fit back in after you remove them and the only thing they have over poly is they last longer and give a softer ride.

my first gen Ranger arms were designed off some shit ass DJM lowers.

the new ones are not. they were designed off a stock arm with frame measurements.

stock uppers are pretty strong, but they are also brittle, as they are spring steel. binding the balljoints will cause them to break in some cases. they will break before they bend usually.

tube lowers are definitely twice as strong as stamped steel stock ones. uppers are as well, but only in the categories that matter to us.

also, no company making aftermarket suspension parts will pay for any other damages than the parts themselves.

Ford will not either if you modify the suspension and BREAK a balljoint. so that point is moot.



I still have a guy coming to have some tube arms made that fit the 98-06 Ranger/Mazda frame and use Toyota spindles.

hopefully this will be a viable option for guys wanting to get away for the wicked negative camber on Rangers.

Im also doing one that uses Mustang II spindles.

i have djm arms with stock ball joints..never had a problem...but i am going to get moog joints just for a little extra travel since i have 20s on mine now and it is body dropped....we also have another ranger laying frame on 19s never had a problem with the djm arms or have we had a problem with ball joints breaking either and it has the stock joints...

the only real problems with the DJM is the lower bushing tubes are not angled like the factory ones, and they are shorter. this is probably to make them fit on easy in case the frame is slightly different from one truck to the next.

secondly they are 1/2" shorter than stock arms. this helps when you use stock uppers.

the Ranger arms take alot more abuse and balljoint angle change than almost any minitruck arms I know of.

they also require more development time with balljoint angles and everything to get them perfect. Im glad I finally made a new jig from stock arms.

too bad that jig will never be put to any real use.

so if i go back to stock uppers i wont have as much camber and the ball joints wont be at such a bind....?

Im not sure if the DJM uppers are shorter than stock or not. I do know that the lowers definitely are.

Ben, what the fuck do you know about my jig being used? absolutely nothing. just another shit talking bitch.

actually since nobody else makes a good bag arm for Rangers, I sell quite a few of these.

also since my uppers are adjustable, they sell well also.

chunky if you ask me, hell, just slap the stock uppers back on and see if it make a difference.