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grip
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I have been debating a full strut setup front and back with my partner for months now.I think it's a good idea and has few negative side affects.If you pulled a strut spindle of a parts car you could use a airstrut and connect the top with a minor tube frame.The picture posted is a a arm car but is to show you a simple tube mount.Would work the same for a strut unless you wanted something more custom.
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Psycopath
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Originally posted by framedragger
im diggin that pathfinder man. super fuckin clean and really different.
thanx man. im actually in the process of moving the strut mounts higher so it sits lower. should be 3'-4" lower, but workin with these unibody/macstrut style front ends is a pain in the ass!
im diggin that pathfinder man. super fuckin clean and really different.
thanx man. im actually in the process of moving the strut mounts higher so it sits lower. should be 3'-4" lower, but workin with these unibody/macstrut style front ends is a pain in the ass!
wht01ranger
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Porsche 924/944/951, and also 968's. Suspensions on them change over the years, but they are all front engine rwd with mac-type struts.
924's would be the cheapest being the oldest, 944's 2nd cheapest, 951 is the turbo variant of the 944, and the 968 is a early/mid 90's replacement for the 944.
Don't use the M030 adjustable suspension that come with some of these, just the regular. I can see you just removing the spring on the regular ones and dropping a bag over it easily like people do now.
Get you the entire front suspension components of a 924/944/951/968, and you'll have access to Porsche 5lug wheels, along with some Big Reds - brakes, that come standard with some 911's, like the 993 Carrera 4S's.
924's would be the cheapest being the oldest, 944's 2nd cheapest, 951 is the turbo variant of the 944, and the 968 is a early/mid 90's replacement for the 944.
Don't use the M030 adjustable suspension that come with some of these, just the regular. I can see you just removing the spring on the regular ones and dropping a bag over it easily like people do now.
Get you the entire front suspension components of a 924/944/951/968, and you'll have access to Porsche 5lug wheels, along with some Big Reds - brakes, that come standard with some 911's, like the 993 Carrera 4S's.
granth
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thanks for the info there mark. appreciate it. same for you grip. if i do this, the engine bay will all be tied together with the frame and bolt up to the core support i want to build.
dssur
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how was that awd mitsubishi suspended? With the awd eclipse running gear? Anyone remember that truck?
BioMax
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Any of you that think that there is going to be camber issues with a Mac strut front suspension needs to go back and read the book again! That is the major downfall of Mac strut front suspensions, there isn't any camber gain. Camber gain helps to keep the tire flat on the ground while the vehicle is leaning out of a turn. The turning strut front end does not do this.
The idea has merrit, but only for the persuit of being different. The time spent would be more beneficial put into a purpose built a-arm design. But if you still choose to go this route, there is many different options that could all work well.
The idea has merrit, but only for the persuit of being different. The time spent would be more beneficial put into a purpose built a-arm design. But if you still choose to go this route, there is many different options that could all work well.
granth
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Originally posted by BioMax
Any of you that think that there is going to be camber issues with a Mac strut front suspension needs to go back and read the book again! That is the major downfall of Mac strut front suspensions, there isn't any camber gain. Camber gain helps to keep the tire flat on the ground while the vehicle is leaning out of a turn. The turning strut front end does not do this.
The idea has merrit, but only for the persuit of being different. The time spent would be more beneficial put into a purpose built a-arm design. But if you still choose to go this route, there is many different options that could all work well.
I was waiting for you to chime in. Always have facts that are worth hearing deeper than "it wont work". Thanks a lot Max, and anyone else who provided tips/help/pics.
Max, what do you think of the strngth issue if tied into the frame itself, and then connected between each tower with something like a "mustang bar" or whatever they are called as a cross brace?
Any of you that think that there is going to be camber issues with a Mac strut front suspension needs to go back and read the book again! That is the major downfall of Mac strut front suspensions, there isn't any camber gain. Camber gain helps to keep the tire flat on the ground while the vehicle is leaning out of a turn. The turning strut front end does not do this.
The idea has merrit, but only for the persuit of being different. The time spent would be more beneficial put into a purpose built a-arm design. But if you still choose to go this route, there is many different options that could all work well.
I was waiting for you to chime in. Always have facts that are worth hearing deeper than "it wont work". Thanks a lot Max, and anyone else who provided tips/help/pics.
Max, what do you think of the strngth issue if tied into the frame itself, and then connected between each tower with something like a "mustang bar" or whatever they are called as a cross brace?
BioMax
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...mmm
If the strut was only going to be used as a shock and the bag was mounted to the lower arm, you could probably get away with it. But realize that all of the stress is transmitted into the strut. Think long and hard about where all of the stress are coming from and how to limit them.
If the strut was only going to be used as a shock and the bag was mounted to the lower arm, you could probably get away with it. But realize that all of the stress is transmitted into the strut. Think long and hard about where all of the stress are coming from and how to limit them.
granth
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why would I mount the bag to the lower arm? Does the setup not need to mount to the spindle?