Reverse 4-Link Guys

I've got to argue and turn away people all the time at my shop because they want stuff like reverse links/2 links, etc. Normally I can explain to them the bad effects and get them to change their mind, but not always. Max is great at explaining the bad effects. I think most people just get it in their head that that is the "only" or "best" way to do it. When I bagged the first taco many people said the only way to link a taco is to do a rear 4-link, (around here) I was thinking WTF that can't be true. Just 2 many people bolt in a system and think they know EVERYTHING about suspension. I've been air bagging rides for 10 years now and I still don't know everything, hell i'd say I still don't know 1/2 of what there is to know. LOL

Originally posted by BclassBD



Originally posted by BioMax



Originally posted by BclassBD



why do a suspension system that has so many popular issues with it? why are so many people afraid of a little relocating??

What?



just sayin alot of people now adays are just in a rush to get their trucks laid out. Just step back, save a few more bucks and relocate that gas tank. The pay off is way more worth it then reverse 4 link systems.

The moment that you think you know it all is the moment you stop learning.

MAX YOUR ALLWAYS FULL OF GREAT INSIGHT -- I ACTUALLY ENJOY READING AND IVE LEARNED SOME GOOD STUFF FROM THE COMMENTS YOU MAKE ON THESE FORUM ---- ALSO I JUST SAW THE NEW LOWLIFE PENDEJOS AND YOUR A GREAT ACTOR AS WELL !!!! HAHAHAH !!!!

nobody knows it all, but I'm pretty sure Max knows more than just about anyone on here. everyone I've ever know with a reverse 4-link has just plain been bad ju-ju.

whats ju-ju? Is that the word of the day?

Edited: 6/17/2007 10:09:46 PM by sic68

ok look I have read all the negatives blah blah blah I have had mine like I said for 3 years and I have never had any of those problems that are always mentioned NONE WHATSOEVER. I am sure someone will say I am lying or I don't know what I am talking about. So say what you will I think it is all about making sure you do it right in the first place..This is always a debate and always will be. That many times I think is going to come down to personal prefrences. It isn't always about saving money either. I wanted to keep my truck as factory as possible underneath and the bed so mine is reversed and suprise it works fine no pinion angle change, no wheel hop, the drive shaft stays in the transmission, still have the orginal u joints, and everything else. So attack me if you will but like the bio max article says its really not like many of us are pushing out a ton of horsepower.

i think that they are saying that its wrong due to the wheel hop & the axle wanting to not squat when you gas hard. Not that if you install it right that it wont ride properly. Every things working against itself in a reverse 4-link. the normal 4-link trails while the reverse 4-link pushes your axle. Sounds scary to me, but if it works for you then great =D

i have a regular tri four link on my dakota and i get wheel hop like a mother phucker

I dont have a problem with someone using it. Your money, your truck, as long as you educate yourself what would it matter to me? I am not a doom sayer thinking you will careen out of control and kill every pedestrian and baby (especially babies, maybe kittens too) on a street the first time you drive it. Its when the people who use reverse set ups recommend that others use them too, that I correct them.

It is wrong. There are about a thousand books on suspension design and none of them support a reverse 4 link. There are tens of thousands of physics and dynamics and statics and linear algebra books printed every single month and none of them have a supporting theory for a reversed rear 4 link design. It works backwards based on the principle of torque. It always will, and a whole truck bed full of "it worked for me" will never ever ever change it. Ever.

Make sure you are educated and then fly in the face of convention and physics if you like. Too me, my opinion only, is that it is half assed to reverse link a truck (a major undertaking) simply because you are too lazy to move the gas tank behind the axle. If you dont like my opinion, I will gladly refund all the money you spent on it.

I will listen to rational and lucid arguments based in FACT and PHYSICS as to why you should be allowed to recommend a reverse set up. Nothing else. I can use trash bags for condoms, probably never have a problem and it will probably "work for me", doesnt mean I should.

I wish I could use a trash bag, i'm stuck using them finger condoms, now i've said 2 much...



Originally posted by Russ-D



I will listen to rational and lucid arguments based in FACT and PHYSICS as to why you should be allowed to recommend a reverse set up. Nothing else. I can use trash bags for condoms, probably never have a problem and it will probably "work for me", doesnt mean I should.