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Originally posted by DeaconFrost
let me take a second out of my day and say that you DO NOT have to mount the tweeter as close as possible to the mid driver. all of our comp vehicles have the tweets mounted in the a pillar ( for staging purposes) let me tell you we build them all day long and i don't want the person who started this post to think that they are stupid due to the in competence of someone telling them they did something wrong!!!!
Yes the currently accepted norm is to put A Piller tweets in, but that does not change the rules of nature. When you move the tweets away from the mids (or any two speakers that have some frequency overlap) you create a comb filter.
The tweets in the A-pillars should be only from 12k-15k and up and should be modestly powered in comparison to the main tweets which should be located close to the mids. By doing that you can raise the soundstage.
Have many cars been done this way? Yes. Do they sound good? Yes. Does that make the rule of thumb obsolete, absolutely not.
Many judges scored 7 time world champ Gary Bigg's car higher when he rebuilt his grills to look like he had changed his speakers to aim more at the listener when the speakers behind the grill were still off axis like they always had been. Many of the same judges assumed that since the top of his dash was grill cloth that he had a center channel and some even commented on it to him if I remember right. Nope just one component set in his kickpanels that were firing basically directly across the car. But the mind will tend to hear what it wants when the eyes tell it something about the location of a speaker.
There is always a right way and varying degrees of less than right, but the right way always works, period. The other ways can be made to work "good enough" that 90% of the world never knows the difference. I just have found over the years that the right way is usually the easiest way to obtain and retain results over the long haul.
You saying I'm imcompetent on car audio or the general physics of sound recording/reproduction...sorry you're wrong, everything else in life, well you may have a point but I do know a bit about sound. I work for an audiophile recording studio, I have designed and helped build a car that won a world championship and placed 2nd (with a higher SQ score than first) another year, I have helped build SPL vehicles (one of which was a record holder that year), so don't tell me that I'm incompetent on this issue. Can I be wrong on something? Yup happens all the time, but just to be sure I've checked my responses with a couple of knowledgable guys and have been told that I'm on target here.
I wasn't bagging on you, crzyone1013, sorry if you took it that way, I tend to be a bit blunt. Did they really explode or maybe the heat from being driven at a modest level caused their glue to fail and one just happened to fall apart, being that it is mounted where it did, it fell down on your arm? I've seen speakers come apart like that before (actually caused it to happen in a couple of experiments, yes i was bored).
I may have posted this twice, the first one did not show up.