Barely Legal

Honestly the BBB cant do anything to them... or anyone for that matter other than nag them, and they will be far less affective as you actually just doing it yourself.

IF they owe you money then I strongly suggest you nag them via email/phone/letters/snail mail constantly.

I think running to SSM to post about the issue will actually have the effect your seeing now. Nothing. I know right off some things said on ssm about people/shops could be slander, and he could actually bring suit on you if your not careful. So its always best to get it handled between the 2 parties without bringing the rest of the world into it.

Thats my 2 cents.

i just do it to inform others. since these controls arms became a big deal, just wanted to put it out there. thats all. i have had this prob with others and not gone about it this way.

They took care of me when i ordered stuff, But They are playing pocket pull with these toyota arms!
Sorry dave is right....If they are screwing around then it needs to be known!

Originally posted by GraphicDisorder



Honestly the BBB cant do anything to them... or anyone for that matter other than nag them, and they will be far less affective as you actually just doing it yourself.

IF they owe you money then I strongly suggest you nag them via email/phone/letters/snail mail constantly.

I think running to SSM to post about the issue will actually have the effect your seeing now. Nothing. I know right off some things said on ssm about people/shops could be slander, and he could actually bring suit on you if your not careful. So its always best to get it handled between the 2 parties without bringing the rest of the world into it.

Thats my 2 cents.

For the record, "slander" is spoken, "libel" is writen. And it is only defemation or "libel" when what is being written is un-true.

Originally posted by impounded dakota



Originally posted by GraphicDisorder



Honestly the BBB cant do anything to them... or anyone for that matter other than nag them, and they will be far less affective as you actually just doing it yourself.

IF they owe you money then I strongly suggest you nag them via email/phone/letters/snail mail constantly.

I think running to SSM to post about the issue will actually have the effect your seeing now. Nothing. I know right off some things said on ssm about people/shops could be slander, and he could actually bring suit on you if your not careful. So its always best to get it handled between the 2 parties without bringing the rest of the world into it.

Thats my 2 cents.

For the record, "slander" is spoken, "libel" is writen. And it is only defemation or "libel" when what is being written is un-true.

A lot of people here wouldn't know what defemation or libel is so I used the more common known word slander. Secondly for the record I didn't suggest this thread included any. I said some things said in some of these threads on SSM could be.

Bottom line.... it would get handled much quicker in my opinion if he went to the source over many channels. Given the history of control arm builders and how people run to SSM and throw them under the bus (true or not), the shops normally disappear after that and nobody gets anything. Now im pretty sure thats not what anyone wants to happen. I think thats the point I was trying to bring home here.

what funny is they use this fourm daily now they stopped geting on

What sucks about this is that good companys like BLF, and the guys there, build a great product and then the market catches on and floods them so fast that its almost impossible to keep up on orders. Now thats still not a good reason for anything thats going on but its probably what happened to them. I wish them the best and hopefully they get all of you guys taken care of and get back on track.

i agree with chris

I'll agree, that in most cases, they may have went into this, with good intentions. But, at what point do they start being honest with customers and explaining how far behind they are? Cause it becomes that point, where we start seeing these threads pop up. Initial intentions, i don't think kw or blf went into it intending to screw anyone, but at one point you cross a line when you know your 6, 8, 10 months behind on current orders, and then you continue to tell people, yea, it'll be done in 6 weeks, AND take thier money while doing it.

At what point do these guys realize they need to man up and be honest, and stop with the never ending list of excuses as to why they don't have the product they promised, done on time, or at all. I mean hell, these are the same threads, over and over, same stories over and over, and same excuses, over and over, for the 3rd a-arm company in a row. My long winded point is, none of these people would be in this positiong if they were just honest from the get go, and said, "hey, i'm 10 months behind on these things, do you still want me to put you on the list?" And there you have it, no extra pressure of keeping up with your own lies.

I'm just waiting for this thread to turn like the others and end up bringing highly personal info into a place it doesn't belong.

I understand lots of folks are out some money right now due to BLF but as was said in many previous forums...would you rather the builder got on here to answer all of your gripes or stay at his bench building parts???