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joemorrow
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Originally posted by GraphicDisorder
Hey Joe since we are talking about this review, what are you going to do to fix the compressor since it locks up and is unreliable over 87psi on restart.
The part that intrests me the most is this:
from djd's review:RESTART!
A compressor needs to restart at any time to be a reliable part of an air suspension system.
This compressor when tested would run from 0~200PSI no problems. But when I went to restart the compressor shortly after it had just shut off I found the motor would lock up. The motor would pull 117amps! Yes full locked rotor is 117amps. It held this 117amps for 6.3 seconds before the onboard circuit breaker tripped.
So the next time I waited a full 10Min before attempting a restart at 110PSI and found the compressor to still be locked.
The check valve was tested and found to be operating perfectly. The problem relied on how well I had everything sealed. The leader hose and head had no leaks so the head pressure remained in the head preventing the motor from running one cycle. It would get locked about
Hey Joe since we are talking about this review, what are you going to do to fix the compressor since it locks up and is unreliable over 87psi on restart.
The part that intrests me the most is this:
from djd's review:RESTART!
A compressor needs to restart at any time to be a reliable part of an air suspension system.
This compressor when tested would run from 0~200PSI no problems. But when I went to restart the compressor shortly after it had just shut off I found the motor would lock up. The motor would pull 117amps! Yes full locked rotor is 117amps. It held this 117amps for 6.3 seconds before the onboard circuit breaker tripped.
So the next time I waited a full 10Min before attempting a restart at 110PSI and found the compressor to still be locked.
The check valve was tested and found to be operating perfectly. The problem relied on how well I had everything sealed. The leader hose and head had no leaks so the head pressure remained in the head preventing the motor from running one cycle. It would get locked about
joemorrow
+1y
Originally posted by GraphicDisorder
Hey Joe since we are talking about this review, what are you going to do to fix the compressor since it locks up and is unreliable over 87psi on restart.
The part that intrests me the most is this:
from djd's review:RESTART!
A compressor needs to restart at any time to be a reliable part of an air suspension system.
This compressor when tested would run from 0~200PSI no problems. But when I went to restart the compressor shortly after it had just shut off I found the motor would lock up. The motor would pull 117amps! Yes full locked rotor is 117amps. It held this 117amps for 6.3 seconds before the onboard circuit breaker tripped.
So the next time I waited a full 10Min before attempting a restart at 110PSI and found the compressor to still be locked.
The check valve was tested and found to be operating perfectly. The problem relied on how well I had everything sealed. The leader hose and head had no leaks so the head pressure remained in the head preventing the motor from running one cycle. It would get locked about
Hey Joe since we are talking about this review, what are you going to do to fix the compressor since it locks up and is unreliable over 87psi on restart.
The part that intrests me the most is this:
from djd's review:RESTART!
A compressor needs to restart at any time to be a reliable part of an air suspension system.
This compressor when tested would run from 0~200PSI no problems. But when I went to restart the compressor shortly after it had just shut off I found the motor would lock up. The motor would pull 117amps! Yes full locked rotor is 117amps. It held this 117amps for 6.3 seconds before the onboard circuit breaker tripped.
So the next time I waited a full 10Min before attempting a restart at 110PSI and found the compressor to still be locked.
The check valve was tested and found to be operating perfectly. The problem relied on how well I had everything sealed. The leader hose and head had no leaks so the head pressure remained in the head preventing the motor from running one cycle. It would get locked about
GraphicDisorder
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Originally posted by joemorrow
Originally posted by GraphicDisorder
Hey Joe since we are talking about this review, what are you going to do to fix the compressor since it locks up and is unreliable over 87psi on restart.
The part that intrests me the most is this:
from djd's review:RESTART!
A compressor needs to restart at any time to be a reliable part of an air suspension system.
This compressor when tested would run from 0~200PSI no problems. But when I went to restart the compressor shortly after it had just shut off I found the motor would lock up. The motor would pull 117amps! Yes full locked rotor is 117amps. It held this 117amps for 6.3 seconds before the onboard circuit breaker tripped.
So the next time I waited a full 10Min before attempting a restart at 110PSI and found the compressor to still be locked.
The check valve was tested and found to be operating perfectly. The problem relied on how well I had everything sealed. The leader hose and head had no leaks so the head pressure remained in the head preventing the motor from running one cycle. It would get locked about
Originally posted by GraphicDisorder
Hey Joe since we are talking about this review, what are you going to do to fix the compressor since it locks up and is unreliable over 87psi on restart.
The part that intrests me the most is this:
from djd's review:RESTART!
A compressor needs to restart at any time to be a reliable part of an air suspension system.
This compressor when tested would run from 0~200PSI no problems. But when I went to restart the compressor shortly after it had just shut off I found the motor would lock up. The motor would pull 117amps! Yes full locked rotor is 117amps. It held this 117amps for 6.3 seconds before the onboard circuit breaker tripped.
So the next time I waited a full 10Min before attempting a restart at 110PSI and found the compressor to still be locked.
The check valve was tested and found to be operating perfectly. The problem relied on how well I had everything sealed. The leader hose and head had no leaks so the head pressure remained in the head preventing the motor from running one cycle. It would get locked about
joemorrow
+1y
Originally posted by GraphicDisorder
Originally posted by joemorrow
Originally posted by GraphicDisorder
Hey Joe since we are talking about this review, what are you going to do to fix the compressor since it locks up and is unreliable over 87psi on restart.
The part that intrests me the most is this:
from djd's review:RESTART!
A compressor needs to restart at any time to be a reliable part of an air suspension system.
This compressor when tested would run from 0~200PSI no problems. But when I went to restart the compressor shortly after it had just shut off I found the motor would lock up. The motor would pull 117amps! Yes full locked rotor is 117amps. It held this 117amps for 6.3 seconds before the onboard circuit breaker tripped.
So the next time I waited a full 10Min before attempting a restart at 110PSI and found the compressor to still be locked.
The check valve was tested and found to be operating perfectly. The problem relied on how well I had everything sealed. The leader hose and head had no leaks so the head pressure remained in the head preventing the motor from running one cycle. It would get locked about
Originally posted by joemorrow
Originally posted by GraphicDisorder
Hey Joe since we are talking about this review, what are you going to do to fix the compressor since it locks up and is unreliable over 87psi on restart.
The part that intrests me the most is this:
from djd's review:RESTART!
A compressor needs to restart at any time to be a reliable part of an air suspension system.
This compressor when tested would run from 0~200PSI no problems. But when I went to restart the compressor shortly after it had just shut off I found the motor would lock up. The motor would pull 117amps! Yes full locked rotor is 117amps. It held this 117amps for 6.3 seconds before the onboard circuit breaker tripped.
So the next time I waited a full 10Min before attempting a restart at 110PSI and found the compressor to still be locked.
The check valve was tested and found to be operating perfectly. The problem relied on how well I had everything sealed. The leader hose and head had no leaks so the head pressure remained in the head preventing the motor from running one cycle. It would get locked about
GraphicDisorder
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Yes that is something your going to want to explain clearly to people. I know the general use of a compressor for me was always lift high enough to drive 1-2 inches off the ground, lift higher to turn, drop back down.
This would leave compressor(s) running for short bursts. In the shipped form your compressor seems like it would not allow such type of performance, yes?
Another scary thing is 117 amp pull durring it "trying" to restart, that is a real high amount and I wonder just how many half assed wiring jobs you see out there on some trucks will actually hold up to such a burst in draw.
This would leave compressor(s) running for short bursts. In the shipped form your compressor seems like it would not allow such type of performance, yes?
Another scary thing is 117 amp pull durring it "trying" to restart, that is a real high amount and I wonder just how many half assed wiring jobs you see out there on some trucks will actually hold up to such a burst in draw.
joemorrow
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Originally posted by GraphicDisorder
Yes that is something your going to want to explain clearly to people. I know the general use of a compressor for me was always lift high enough to drive 1-2 inches off the ground, lift higher to turn, drop back down.
This would leave compressor(s) running for short bursts. In the shipped form your compressor seems like it would not allow such type of performance, yes?
Another scary thing is 117 amp pull durring it "trying" to restart, that is a real high amount and I wonder just how many half assed wiring jobs you see out there on some trucks will actually hold up to such a burst in draw.
Brandt,Let me assure you we ship over 30 compressors each and every day and this is rarely an issue. NOTE:::: It takes 117amps only because of the tremendous backpressure on an immediate restart. If there were no head pressure the restart would be around 30amps, NOT 117amps. To resolve this we have simulated a bypass to relieve the head pressure so that is NEVER an issue for anyone again. This way you get the tight tolerance of a piston seal, and the ability to bleed off Restart pressure. I hope I have explained this clearly enough. If not, ask me until you get a sufficient explanation from me. Please read the previous post with the image, because I thought I covered it, but if not, I will try again.
tx Joe
Yes that is something your going to want to explain clearly to people. I know the general use of a compressor for me was always lift high enough to drive 1-2 inches off the ground, lift higher to turn, drop back down.
This would leave compressor(s) running for short bursts. In the shipped form your compressor seems like it would not allow such type of performance, yes?
Another scary thing is 117 amp pull durring it "trying" to restart, that is a real high amount and I wonder just how many half assed wiring jobs you see out there on some trucks will actually hold up to such a burst in draw.
Brandt,Let me assure you we ship over 30 compressors each and every day and this is rarely an issue. NOTE:::: It takes 117amps only because of the tremendous backpressure on an immediate restart. If there were no head pressure the restart would be around 30amps, NOT 117amps. To resolve this we have simulated a bypass to relieve the head pressure so that is NEVER an issue for anyone again. This way you get the tight tolerance of a piston seal, and the ability to bleed off Restart pressure. I hope I have explained this clearly enough. If not, ask me until you get a sufficient explanation from me. Please read the previous post with the image, because I thought I covered it, but if not, I will try again.
tx Joe
GraphicDisorder
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I understand that with no head pressure it would not draw 117amps. My point is that in the example I gave that the compressor could lock up in shipped form yes? After all Doug tested a compressor as you would ship it to anyone yes?
Given that in my example I would fill my tank to 200psi, lift the truck, drive, the compressor could then lock up uppon trying to refill yes? Again in shipped form no modification.
In other words your saying that its all fine since after break in it "could" go away, or you could crack one of the bolts to allow head pressure to escape quicker. I dunno just seems like you shouldn't be shipping a 200psi compressor that may lock right away after you fill the first time and try to restart.
Given that in my example I would fill my tank to 200psi, lift the truck, drive, the compressor could then lock up uppon trying to refill yes? Again in shipped form no modification.
In other words your saying that its all fine since after break in it "could" go away, or you could crack one of the bolts to allow head pressure to escape quicker. I dunno just seems like you shouldn't be shipping a 200psi compressor that may lock right away after you fill the first time and try to restart.
DJDAudi0
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Thanks for the information Joe!
Almost 99% of industrial compressors run a 'unloader' a small valve built into the pressure switch then when the pressure switch kicks off it will open a small valve to remove the air from the head of the compressor.
This is done to eliminate the strain induced from high pressure restarts.
Is there a way to include a small 'T' fitting and that above valve with the compressor when people purchase the unit?
Also how do you wire in the valve? Is it on all the time when the compressor is off? Or is it on a timed relay?
Almost 99% of industrial compressors run a 'unloader' a small valve built into the pressure switch then when the pressure switch kicks off it will open a small valve to remove the air from the head of the compressor.
This is done to eliminate the strain induced from high pressure restarts.
Is there a way to include a small 'T' fitting and that above valve with the compressor when people purchase the unit?
Also how do you wire in the valve? Is it on all the time when the compressor is off? Or is it on a timed relay?
DJDAudi0
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Originally posted by GraphicDisorder
I understand that with no head pressure it would not draw 117amps. My point is that in the example I gave that the compressor could lock up in shipped form yes? After all Doug tested a compressor as you would ship it to anyone yes?
Given that in my example I would fill my tank to 200psi, lift the truck, drive, the compressor could then lock up uppon trying to refill yes? Again in shipped form no modification.
In other words your saying that its all fine since after break in it "could" go away, or you could crack one of the bolts to allow head pressure to escape quicker. I dunno just seems like you shouldn't be shipping a 200psi compressor that may lock right away after you fill the first time and try to restart.
If it helps my friend brought his 2 year old DC5000 over for me to compare. Now that the seal has warn the compressor can restart at a higher pressure. But the compressor does run slower due to the fact it does not seal as tight as it once did.
I think most people do not find this problem because they do not take the time I did to make sure I had a 100% leak free system haha.
I understand that with no head pressure it would not draw 117amps. My point is that in the example I gave that the compressor could lock up in shipped form yes? After all Doug tested a compressor as you would ship it to anyone yes?
Given that in my example I would fill my tank to 200psi, lift the truck, drive, the compressor could then lock up uppon trying to refill yes? Again in shipped form no modification.
In other words your saying that its all fine since after break in it "could" go away, or you could crack one of the bolts to allow head pressure to escape quicker. I dunno just seems like you shouldn't be shipping a 200psi compressor that may lock right away after you fill the first time and try to restart.
If it helps my friend brought his 2 year old DC5000 over for me to compare. Now that the seal has warn the compressor can restart at a higher pressure. But the compressor does run slower due to the fact it does not seal as tight as it once did.
I think most people do not find this problem because they do not take the time I did to make sure I had a 100% leak free system haha.