whitest of white paint?

i would just go around dealerships and check out whites.. You might want to check out the mercedes whites as well..

Edited: 4/11/2010 10:20:05 PM by AZ ARTWORX

yea because expensive cars ALWAYS have the best colors...   because they're expensive         

---------------------------------------------Originally posted by AZ ARTWORXits an ok black i prefer to add a little this and a little that for my blacks. hok seal is not made to be cleared over if you want to go by tech show me where it recomends that. base is not the weak link its the membrain for the bind between sealer and clear. the silver was not designed for a clear coat it was designed for an undercoat for the uk. they now print on the can UNDERCOAT. ---------------------------------------------it doesnt say in the tech sheet that ive found. doesnt mean u cant. i got this right from the guy who wrote the tech sheets for hok. there are a few other little tricks that they dont say, that even  kosmoski himself will say.   base is the weak link. y?... its because most are 1k. reason y u see basecoat candy jobs fail beacuse of excessive film of base colors.  a more stable film has little to no basecoat. a catalyzed or activated base does help this.  reason y hok made a silver sealer and a catalyzed candy was to keep a stable film that will be durable at  over 10mils. have u not seen a paint job split from having too much base?  if basecoat is needed to be the "membrain" as u say.. what do u do when u have a single stage? and u use a sealer, then go straight to a ss?  now that hok has discontinued the uk line and replaced it with uc25 which is a clear(u must mix the kks to anchieve a uk mix) and use that over the silver, isnt that just the same thing? also, in the scheme of things, what catalyst do u use for koseal and the clear? ku150. must be pretty similiar if they use the same catalyst. def. rules out the epoxy deal for sealers as stated above, since anyone who knows that u mix a urethane with an epoxy catalyzt it will curdle right in the cup. also, if ur a fan of airbrush action... see what fraser and guiliano did on that rice fink subaru, they used koseal and cleared over it, and went and did the graphics. fraser always promotes the proper way to do things with hok and wouldnt be putting an article out that says something u cant do that would comprimise a hok paint job.

base should be used as a membrain with most sealers. hok seal is a very different product. yes you can do things with it that are not normally the case. does it mean that you should i don't think so. i do catalyze all my base coats. one for better control, two to add more security. i have never had any paint job ever come back EVER! its seems you know some information. would you like to come down here and fix my four month waiting list since you have all this time and your doing so much charity work lmao. just playin man.

Edited: 4/12/2010 1:16:49 PM by sik_kreations

---------------------------------------------Originally posted by AZ ARTWORXbase should be used as a membrain with most sealers. hok seal is a very different product. yes you can do things with it that are not normally the case. does it mean that you should i don't think so. i do catalyze all my base coats. one for better control, two to add more security. i have never had any paint job ever come back EVER! its seems you know some information. would you like to come down here and fix my four month waiting list since you have all this time and your doing so much charity work lmao. just playin man. ---------------------------------------------

   y do u keep calling base a membrane? do u activate hok base? if so y? there is nothing in hok base that the ku150 catalyzes.  not to mention the only time hok base is ever catalyzed.,  hok came out with kv1, a product that makes hok base legal for socal 1151 aqmd rule (3.5 voc) it takes 2 parts that to 1 part base to 1 part ku150.  also, do u catalyzed your base when doing graphics? most basecoats that are activated will go out of window before u can clear,  and thats going down a road for delam. leaving a unactivated base open is one thing. but a crosslinked base thats out of window will likely delam, think ppg dbu or chromabase ( keep in mind i havent  sprayed or even seen basecoat like this iin well over a year since its illegal and no jobber can sell it)  yeah for waterbase/born!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!as for as the sealer, u just dont think so? there is alot of things that u can do that others think u cant.  i know ur in arizona, but kosmoski is giving a free demo at coast airbrush in less then a month. if he says that its not okay to clear over koseal,  i will pay for ur trip down here. fair enuff?p.s. throwing out ur workload means nothing to me. this isnt a dick measuring contest,  its a dicussion of paint products.

don't need to measure dicks JUST KIDDIN WITH YA, i do not catalyze hok base but i do not ever use just the hok sealer and clear thats just silly its pointless to do and its not made for that. 

...actually its not.  It is a thread on the whitest white.    

i thought white was white ....anything whiter then white would be clear

Edited: 4/12/2010 4:09:03 PM by AZ ARTWORX

i don't really know how i got sucked into an argument about sealers. now that i stop to think about it, what a waste of time conversation. its really a preference on what you think is the brightest white. i just shot out a little info on how i save on color and the tech police attacked me.

Everyone has been really helpful - more than I ever needed to know about sealer.

Thanks again everyone, I will check in to the pearls and see if I can find that perfect bright-ass white.