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gettwisted07
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its so much easier to just flip the upper arms an install drop spindles.... Yes i have a hardbody layin body on 22's!
ChadCrissDesign
+1y
Edited: 3/14/2011 6:53:46 PM by ChadCrissDesign
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gettwisted07 said:
its so much easier to just flip the upper arms an install drop spindles.... Yes i have a hardbody layin body on 22's!
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lol I love your truck bro, been watching it get built. You can also lay 22's on a c10 without a thornbeck brothers front member too, but people still buy it. Personaly I think that the upsidedown and flipped uppers look like shit. Same goes with the hardbody lower control arms. Im down with what ever looks cool. :)
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gettwisted07 said:
its so much easier to just flip the upper arms an install drop spindles.... Yes i have a hardbody layin body on 22's!
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lol I love your truck bro, been watching it get built. You can also lay 22's on a c10 without a thornbeck brothers front member too, but people still buy it. Personaly I think that the upsidedown and flipped uppers look like shit. Same goes with the hardbody lower control arms. Im down with what ever looks cool. :)
jeebus @ mmw
+1y
i know ive said this before in this thread somewhere... but those lowers will not work like that man, you can count on it.
anything thinner than 5/8 or 3/4 plate on the lower will bend over time. Even with your gusset work, its going to fold, espically with how the bag is loaded into the arm.
The design looks 100% better than the last one, but those lowers are still toooo weak.
Taylor
anything thinner than 5/8 or 3/4 plate on the lower will bend over time. Even with your gusset work, its going to fold, espically with how the bag is loaded into the arm.
The design looks 100% better than the last one, but those lowers are still toooo weak.
Taylor
ChadCrissDesign
+1y
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Chopped Mazda said:
i know ive said this before in this thread somewhere... but those lowers will not work like that man, you can count on it.
anything thinner than 5/8 or 3/4 plate on the lower will bend over time. Even with your gusset work, its going to fold, espically with how the bag is loaded into the arm.
The design looks 100% better than the last one, but those lowers are still toooo weak.
Taylor
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Even if im using 3/8" plate with 1/4" thick, 3/4" tall gussets running the length of it?
Chopped Mazda said:
i know ive said this before in this thread somewhere... but those lowers will not work like that man, you can count on it.
anything thinner than 5/8 or 3/4 plate on the lower will bend over time. Even with your gusset work, its going to fold, espically with how the bag is loaded into the arm.
The design looks 100% better than the last one, but those lowers are still toooo weak.
Taylor
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Even if im using 3/8" plate with 1/4" thick, 3/4" tall gussets running the length of it?
TwistedMinis
+1y
Why not just built a proper tube arm? I don't understand all this plate arm stuff, it looks terrible.
ChadCrissDesign
+1y
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TwistedMinis said:
Why not just built a proper tube arm? I don't understand all this plate arm stuff, it looks terrible.
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and thats the type of a-arms you like... As for proper, im not even sure I have ever seen a OEM suspension that was tube. That was created by someone in the aftermarket field like myself. I think that tube a-arms are boring and plain and all look alike. So I designed for my truck a flat a-arm set up.
TwistedMinis said:
Why not just built a proper tube arm? I don't understand all this plate arm stuff, it looks terrible.
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and thats the type of a-arms you like... As for proper, im not even sure I have ever seen a OEM suspension that was tube. That was created by someone in the aftermarket field like myself. I think that tube a-arms are boring and plain and all look alike. So I designed for my truck a flat a-arm set up.
tre5
+1y
I would lengthen the top of the spindle, lift the upper arm mounts, and run a heim on the upper pivot at the spindle. That arm looks almost straight up and down. Also, that lower arm looks bad.... bad meaning bad, not bad meaning good.
jeebus @ mmw
+1y
Edited: 3/23/2011 12:07:56 PM by Chopped Mazda
Regardless of how you have it plated and gusseted, its going to fail, and it just looks scabbed together. It will fold, count on it.
i dont have a problem with plate arms at all, I personally love them. I make them every single day. I deffinentally do not agree with tube being the only way to build a "proper" arm, But that example your putting forth is a terrible representation of what they can be.
In your application, it almost seems to manipulate around the bag like that, you will need to make a tube arm. Or, a flat plate arm with a pocket in the arm for the air bag so it can sit how i needs to. I do my C10 lower arms in this way, i pocket them so the bag can sit at a different angle then the arm.
I agree with jeremy on the uppers as well, you gotta find a way for them to not be standing up and down. Raising the uppers a bit will help.
Taylor
Regardless of how you have it plated and gusseted, its going to fail, and it just looks scabbed together. It will fold, count on it.
i dont have a problem with plate arms at all, I personally love them. I make them every single day. I deffinentally do not agree with tube being the only way to build a "proper" arm, But that example your putting forth is a terrible representation of what they can be.
In your application, it almost seems to manipulate around the bag like that, you will need to make a tube arm. Or, a flat plate arm with a pocket in the arm for the air bag so it can sit how i needs to. I do my C10 lower arms in this way, i pocket them so the bag can sit at a different angle then the arm.
I agree with jeremy on the uppers as well, you gotta find a way for them to not be standing up and down. Raising the uppers a bit will help.
Taylor
ChadCrissDesign
+1y
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Chopped Mazda said:
Edited: 3/23/2011 12:07:56 PM by Chopped Mazda
Regardless of how you have it plated and gusseted, its going to fail, and it just looks scabbed together. It will fold, count on it.
i dont have a problem with plate arms at all, I personally love them. I make them every single day. I deffinentally do not agree with tube being the only way to build a "proper" arm, But that example your putting forth is a terrible representation of what they can be.
In your application, it almost seems to manipulate around the bag like that, you will need to make a tube arm. Or, a flat plate arm with a pocket in the arm for the air bag so it can sit how i needs to. I do my C10 lower arms in this way, i pocket them so the bag can sit at a different angle then the arm.
I agree with jeremy on the uppers as well, you gotta find a way for them to not be standing up and down. Raising the uppers a bit will help.
Taylor
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I know your just trying to help bro, and I appreciate it all, tomarrow im going to stick a stock lower control arm in a press with a gauge, and see how much pressure it takes tell it fails, then Im going to do the same with mine, If I get to the same pressure without fail, then its good to go.
Jeremy- My suspension looks like it does because I like it. Its for my truck. The chevy that you were building with tube lowers, and flat plate uppers, im not a big fan of at all, but I still think your work is badass.
We build stuff all the time to see if it will work.
Taylor- I seen your blue bent lowers on your website, and im more scared of those then I am mine, you water jetted out all the material on your bend line.
But all thanks for the comments.
Chopped Mazda said:
Edited: 3/23/2011 12:07:56 PM by Chopped Mazda
Regardless of how you have it plated and gusseted, its going to fail, and it just looks scabbed together. It will fold, count on it.
i dont have a problem with plate arms at all, I personally love them. I make them every single day. I deffinentally do not agree with tube being the only way to build a "proper" arm, But that example your putting forth is a terrible representation of what they can be.
In your application, it almost seems to manipulate around the bag like that, you will need to make a tube arm. Or, a flat plate arm with a pocket in the arm for the air bag so it can sit how i needs to. I do my C10 lower arms in this way, i pocket them so the bag can sit at a different angle then the arm.
I agree with jeremy on the uppers as well, you gotta find a way for them to not be standing up and down. Raising the uppers a bit will help.
Taylor
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I know your just trying to help bro, and I appreciate it all, tomarrow im going to stick a stock lower control arm in a press with a gauge, and see how much pressure it takes tell it fails, then Im going to do the same with mine, If I get to the same pressure without fail, then its good to go.
Jeremy- My suspension looks like it does because I like it. Its for my truck. The chevy that you were building with tube lowers, and flat plate uppers, im not a big fan of at all, but I still think your work is badass.
We build stuff all the time to see if it will work.
Taylor- I seen your blue bent lowers on your website, and im more scared of those then I am mine, you water jetted out all the material on your bend line.
But all thanks for the comments.