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schreff   +1y
Wow!!! my one friend just told me that he knows this one guy that has a wife and 3 kids. He works for a contractor and gets paid almost $800 a week under the table, And he gets all kinds of funds from the gov. because they dont think he works. Now aint that some shit. Oh yea he is a Mexican guy, and they live in York, PA. Just because someone says Mexicans or Blacks doesnt mean its all of them so you two need watch what you say, the shit is happening. (mark and SierraX).
vidraggin   +1y
I cant believe Im even gonna respond to this post....

First off........NOAA warned the city of New Orleans 3 days before the hurricane hit that a bouey had been destroyed by 68ft+ waves from Katrina. The city did nothing until Sunday before it struck. The reason you ask? Well because no one expected it to be that bad. Also, New Orleans was warned back in like 1929 when the city was flooded once before that if this very thing were to ever happen, this would be the outcome. One thing that alot of people dont realize is that the water not only came through some levees, but it also came over some of them. Granted there were some flaws in the leveys, and they needed to be fixed, but the city would still have been flooded in most areas. The Mayor of New Orleans didnt even declare a state of emergency until Tuesday after Katrina, so I feel that the government did the best they could. Now that they have the federal help, they are getting in there and getting shit done, right? Also one thing that has been taught to us by this hurricane is that we need a governmental way to bypass the normal checks and balances in this scenario of natural disaster.

Now about the immigrant/welfare thing. I myself live in a city where its not uncommon to see people working under the table and getting government help and we have plenty of (mostly Spanish) families living together to keep money back to send to other family members. Let me ask you this, have you ever tried to find a loophole in something to make it better for yourself? No matter if its right or wrong, it works. I know a family right now that the mom gets help for her 2 sons just as if she was single and they had no dad, but the dad lives tehre with them and supports them. Unfortunately neither has the education to get jobs over minimum wage, so this is a way to sustain life. Not the best way to live, but it works. Also, people come to the US every day to seek a better life. These people room with each other to save money to send back home to share the riches of their new life with the family. Those jobs that they do for half are the jobs that we can do, but we demand a higher rate for two reasons, 1-we have families to support, and 2-we have a lifestyle we are used to living. Also these jobs tend to be labor intensive jobs which most people are used to working for a whole lot less in other countries. For instance 6 bucks an hour is a ton better than 1.00 a day isnt it? Just think if us making $10-15 would pile in with our grandparents, parents, brothers/sisters and families, how much better off we would be? I see where people are coming from when they comment on it, but I can also see it fromt he point of view of the people doing it.

What Im trying to say is that this stuff might not be completely right, but its not totally the government's fault. There are alot of things in this country that need attention, but we are still at war and looks like we will be for at least another year or so, and maybe at the end we can look at what needs to be done to fix the system.

I struggled when I was a kid to have food and things and today I still buy my grandmothers groceries every week because they can onjly get 10 bucks a month in food stamps and their measley checks barely pay for prescriptions and bills. I dont think its right for people to cheat the system, but one day it will come back to bite them in the ass. One thing you can do if you know things like that are going on is to let your local Social Service office know, as they cant take care of welfare fraud issues. Anyhow, sorry for the book and I tried to be as unbiased as possible, because frankly, the systems is so screwed up that it dont matter if you are pink with yellow pokadots you will be able to get through some crack


Whew.....flame away.
schreff   +1y
Very well put.
chico   +1y
I was born is Seattle, all members of my inmediate family are U.S Citizens, not recieving any kind of help from anyone, home owner and all that, my godfather also a citizen is scamming the government, disabled since late 1970's and collecting checks while purchasing several homes (4) and spendng his weekends hunting, he is the most active disabled person ever!!. a White family I personally know are in the bussiness of having babies, they collect a check per kid and money for food and rent!!! my Black friend also collects food stamps and sells them because he works construction under the table!! so just like there are people in this world like bagged89mazda there are some nice people like the rest of you, don't let the bad apples ruin it for everyone else! I don't assume all white dudes are drug addict, rappist, racist rednecks 'cause it's not true!! you must have papers to collect help from the government people! and most of the jobs Illegal immigrants take are jobs no one else wants! if you do want those jobs.....maybe it's time you get your asses in school and better yourselfs!!
mark   +1y


what did I say that got you riled up?
mullet   +1y
OK guys.. this went sour really quickly.. didn't even take 2 full pages to do it. We should really hop off the ban waggon about welfare and cheating the government. The truth is we all know lots of scams, loop holes, and tricks to wrongfully better ourselves. We have to lead this country by example, knowledge, and good values.. not by chastizing or mardering those who do scam the system. So once again.. please stop the name calling, calling out, and instagating. We need to work for a better future.. not for a memorable past.
Mike
grantkustoms   +1y
VIDRAGGIN my hat is off to you bro, Very well put.
Matt
delawaredime   +1y
man, i just wanted to post up a funny pic...
the twanksta   +1y


^^^Thats the only good part of this topic, whether your for bush or not have a sense of humor!
itsarealedgeiswear   +1y
I love George W. Bush and I thought the pic was funny as crap, But there are other things that need to be taken care of first like affirmative action that is a joke all it does it lower standards for everyone, and as for someone who works in the construction field the prob isnt the mexicans or purto ricans its the contractors that pay them under the table they should be throw in jail for life or some other very stiff penalty other than that people who buy drugs that are originating from outside the U.S. are doing far worse than the mexicans sending money back home to their families.

But when its all said and done were all just children of God so just be happy your alive and well..

I dont have a mazda so I dont post alot.