help with fourlink measurements

ive got the pic, but i dont know how to post it. you have to have one thats already on the internet to post it on here dont you?

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for some reason it is really hard to get the pinion angles correct with the reverse 4 link, just take our advice and learn from our mistakes and dont do it, i can recomend a place to get a custom aluminum fuel cell made that will accept your stock mazda sending unit so you dont ahve to shell out mega bucks for a new unit and the exhaust thing is easy, jsut cut it off lol, but really really do some research on the net about reverse 4 link set ups, or even call suicide doors and see what they tell you

oh i mean ive already done it. ive got mine bagged w/a reverse 4 link and the bags mounted on the bars. we set the pinion angle at my ride height so all thats fine. yeah, the farther you jack it up w/ a bag on bar setup the more its gonna roll the rearend forward and mess up the pinon angle...but i keep it low so its all good. long as you dont go over bout 10 mph while its jacked up its fine, after that it makes this awful grinding noise. lol ive never heard it come from mine but ive heard tell of it. what we did was before we cut the leaf springs off, we tacked the rearend to the frame while the frame was layin on it before we notched it. that way, we made sure it was at the stock angle and position, so that probaly eliminated the problem. we just notched it after that and ran the 4 link. no big deal. how is it easier to keep the pinion angle right on a forward? is there that much difference between the two? honestly ive never seen a forward mounted 4 link in real life. everyone around here runs them reverse.

just like dragorbust said, why is everyone hating on the reverse ur SAYING DONT DO IT, just like drag or bust im running a reverse with abgs over axle and i have no problems what so ever some times i hear a grinding noise but thats only due to my small c notches and bags totally deflated, why everyone is saying dont do it i dunno ive had my reverse on mine for about 6 months and have not had one problem, my buddy has his reverse for 3 years and not one problem. Just like dragorbust said i ran mine reverse because i wanted to keep my gas tank in its stock location and the exhaust, im not trying to re-locate everything im trying to keep the retro look for my 1983

so gimme some pics or something of what a reverse 4 link can do because im seriously lost and im sure dragordie is to

ok a reversed 4 link is no diffrent than a foward link as far as pinion angle goes. the reason most people say not to run them is because when you have the bars reversed when under heavy braking the truck can lift in the rear unloading the rear tires. that is the only proven fact i have found. pinion angle isn't affected unless you just set the link up wrong and then its not the links fault.

yeah im just talking from a bad expierience ( sp ) the dude who did mine originally did it so wrong that with the truck down, the pumpkin would turn way up, and with the truck up it would turn way down, it actually destroyed my carrier bearing in two days, so not hating on them, sorry if it came that way, just had a bad deal with one

Okay... here's the deal.
The pinion angle will not be your problem if all the bars are either forward or reverse... But a forverse set up (2 forward, 2 reverse) will change your pinion drastically at peak lift and visa versa. Additionally on a forverse setup if you are using a bag over axle configuration the bag will be distorted severly due to the pinion change. Now.. the problem with bars in reverse is the braking and handling. The largest of the two problems is braking. It is true that the bars run in reverse will unload the rear end under braking and cause greater stopping distances, etc. It is also said that under hard cornering the handling can become unpredictable.

To back all this up..
Call SD and ask'm.. They will tell you the same thing, as well as your local race shops. You can even google it.... and I bet you'll find more info showing how bad reverse, and forverse set ups really are..
NASCAR runs forward bars, NHRA runs forward bars, car mfg's run forward bars... see my point.

I'm not hatin' on anyone who has a reverse set up, etc. I set mine up forverse in order to save my tank, but have now flipped my bars forward. I have a friend running reverse ladder bars with a panhard, and he hasn't had any real issues, but when braking... his truck is harder to stop.

I see a lot of forverse set ups... and this is why I thought it would be okay to do mine this way.. but after reading a bunch about these set ups, and seeing my own set up react to the full motion of the suspension, I decided to flip my bars forward, and I am now working to make them into a wish bone. Good luck with the rear set up. I wish you the best.

For all those running reverse or forverse.. Be careful.
I still wanna see ya dragin'!

yeah i totally agree on the braking thing lol. a deer ran out in front of me the other day and i felt the back get really light and it locked up and skidded. if that deer wouldnt have moved i woulda hit it....i really could feel it unload though yall are right on that. and i guess i understand why a forward wouldnt do that.

yeah i new the truck would unload and all that but everyone is saying DONT DO IT DONT DO IT, well its already done the only problem ive ever had is the grinding noise when the truck is all the down and bags are deflated is this because the pinion angle is to low or high? or should i just move the angle more downwords when im at right height im just curious because i dont want to go rail my rear end and it sound like im fucking draggin a tarc lol