drop spindle with flipped balljoint and notched upper?

in most cases a fliped balljount is not really flipping the ball jount, you are moveing it from under the arm to the top of the arm/ i e flipping the mounting point... now some trucks use balljounts that do mount faceing down and they are just as safe as any thing we do to our trucks, sometimes the trucks we make are more safe then oem stuff, and there realy is no right or wrong way to do something as long as it is not a hack job

okay first off this is goin to be an air ride setup so camber isnt going to matter because thats adjusted out with ride height. second of all when did putting the balljoint on top of the arm make it harder on the joint? its doing exactly what it was on the bottom of the arm. If anything it has made the truck safer because the arm is taking some of the stress of the truck instead of the bolts taking it all. As far as the coils for the pre truck i know that they do not offer drop coils or drop spindles. you are always talking about do things the "right way" or not at all. the "right way" would be to custom fit a new set of coils allowing a safe drop with a good ride. and a new set of strategically placed shocks fit for the application. You think cutting your coils and dropping it a few inches isnt going to start wearing the hell out of your tires? Maybe you should think about your own setup and what you are saying before you start callin other people idiots and half assers.


thats just my 5 cents worth though.




-justin

Spindles lose lift and push the wheel out further causing the wheel to rub the fender. I'm running flipped lowers and that's it and mine lays on 18s. What is the overall goal we looking for? To make sure it'll lay out when bagged? For that matter you can lay out on stockers without any mods. And crazymikey....leave the airbag questions to the guys that actually grew up and bagged there's. You stay over there in static land and wait for a question about lowering blocks and tortion bars.

ooooooohhhhh in your face ....lol but ya we make our trucks more safe most of the time by the things we do to be able to lay them out,ie the parts we use are biger, stronger and well thought out befor we do them,that is why we are on here to ask and tell

now the fundamental issue with tryin to help you out is there are waaay to many unforseen variables to consider, the reason these varables exist is you dont have wheels picked out.
I could tell you 100 different things to do for various applications, and wheel sizes, but untill you have everything you want to install, you cannot mock it up and get your setup figured so you are happy with it.

I know ya said that it was not something you felt you could or wanted to invest in now, but I honestly dont know any other way, wheels come first.

By picking a wheel size, it will be obvious what needs to be done.But there are other things to consider,here are questions I would have to ask.

Bagged or static?
If bagged , which bags, in other words how much lift do you want?
Will you be bodydropping?
How much lift, and drop, do you require?
Do you want it to lay frame?
Will ya install a V8 in the future?
Is it a daily driver, full show, or seasonal driver?
What are the roads like?
If its a driver, what do you need to keep it feasable or practical to drive?
How much do ya want to spend on it?
What is your skillset, and tools available?
etc etc.

Now this is always a learning experience, so none of this is perfect.
In retrospect I would have built a custom frame and usd the stock front components, it would have been cheaper, faster and easier for me.

drop spindles, with supplied heavy s-10 BJs and grade 10 hardware, slam specialties RE-6s on 20" wheels and pie cut uppers
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I am not happy with my current set up and the drop spindles are a part of the problem.
They push out the wheel I'd say an inch, and in some ways it helps, like more steering radius, I found that the width of my rim is really whats killin me, I may build my own control arms, we'll see.
But for me its about making these wheels work,
So pick a direction, and I will help as much as I can

yes that is the way it needs to be done but if you cant get the wheels yet, then at the most you need to find out what size you want,go down to your tire shop and find out how big they are,and the off set with the size tire you want to run,then if you can find a stock wheel and tire that has the same over all size and off set and you can use it to do the mock up

this is true, I had 16" Z71 rims on my current truck when I got it, I did measure from the middle of the spindle outwards to figure out what outside diameter I could handle,my 16s with 70 series rubber was like 27 1/2" if I recall correctly
I got lots of help from the guys on here, and from a table supplied by minitruckin mag , but still the offset in reality combined with the outside diameter of the rim is killin my steering radius and its a ton more shaving relocating and extra fab work to go with 20s

I would find the narrowest rim that will bolt on and go no bigger than 18" in the front,
18" will allow space for a flipped BJ, and get the lowest profile tire you can at least a 30 series dont worry bout pot holes too much bags do compensate for that quite a bit.
no reason ya cant BD with 18s, and there ya go, something that will lay look good and be reliable , and reasonably easy to accomplish, me , I will make it work if somebody says I cant or should'nt

ya thats what i did, got a sfbd and 18's and it lays out nicly, and ya if i had drop spindles id be able to go biger on my rims, but im also runing 4x4 fenders, and fliped bj's on toyota spindles. i a-ed the lower arms so it will lay that far so I lost some steering anyway

Come on guys don't fool with this guys head. I am running drop spindles without flipped ball joint or cutting of the upper arm and my 18's do not rub on the 2wd fenders. 4x4 fenders are ugly and not need too. The reason I went with drop spindles is to put 20's later but all that shit people are saying is crazy. The drop spindles also help you with alignment and camber which someone stated earlier and yes that is very true. As someone mentioned drop spindles loose lift height and yes but you are air bagged, isn't that the purpose of bagging to be low?

Think Smarter not Harder guys!!!

all I was saying is I got 4x4's NOT that he needs them, tho he may if he runs the drop spindles, and yes we like to ride low but we also like to be able to get over speed bumps so we need the lift to be able to do this... now to fix this all we have to do is relocate the bag bracket lower so it will get the same lift as it did before..... now yes I have fliped BJ's this lets me later put drop spindles on and i will be able to run a 24" with a 30 tire,altho the body will not take that big of a rim and tire