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Originally posted by The Dog (Waldog25)



First off, Franklin was not trying to re-invent the wheel. As I stated before, this goal may be somewhat possible, however, I still don't see how you can tell me that they will save money by adding all these extra components and the more connections you have the MORE possibility of air leaks.Yeah it would be a great concept. But how much room do you have for something like this. A basic setup in most mini trucks and cars take up a decent amount of space because of the akward nature of the components. In the long run you still have not convinced me that is is worth while.You get what you pay for.And you said yourself 100% reuse is not possible. Therefore the system in inefficent from the start of the design.Do you REALLY need that much air? REALLY?I had two SMALL thomas or whatever those little guys were when I first put cans on my Civic, and those suckers could air my tank in under 3 min from almost empty.When your driving and you have a PSI switch, you don't need a constant supply of air, it kicks on when you need it.If someone is using the switches that much you are talking about hoppin competion, and either you juice it, or you use compressed nitrogen like Scrape-N-Customs did for the civic that they could flip over.So to recap:A. 100% reuse is not possibleB. More connections = More LeaksC. More components = More $$$D. SPACE CONCERNSDude, I am all for innovention, but really man, I personally think they are other options to be explored like LIQUID NITROGEN.A small bottle of LIQUID NITROGEN when off gassed could created enough compressed gas to give you a bunch of ups.I mean you would have to do the math on it, and by all means I am not a chemist, but I work with them, and I have seen the possibilities.Of course all of this is can be a safety concern. Especially liquid nitrogen, it's probably not something you want to drive around with.But then again, people are driving around with nitrogen, and even though that is an inert gas, it would not be pretty in an accident.Anyways dude, good luck at the holy grail of air recycling.

But Franklin did re-invent the way we looked at every day objects

About costing more,

Lets say you have (2) 450C comps about $200 a pop,Well It is to slow for you on your 12 gal so you decide to buy another comp for $200My system is about $160 this will take your (2) 450

Originally posted by jmn444



Okay, i'm kicking myself for not considering the volume change in the boost tank.... BUT, now my question would be: you say there's a magic psi for boost, but from the numbers you gave, it seems it would be next to impossible to truly maintain any kind of pressure at all unless you were dancing your system non-stop... SO is it safe to assume that under normal use you would not see any (or minimal) gain in fill speed? I'm not complaining about that since you wouldn't need it for normal use, but I just want to understand what your doing here...

This system is on my daily driver

but if you 'regulate' the output and 'regulate' the input you can work magic, sadly that is all I can say.

man,if the guy has designed a system that fits in a decent location in the truck and can do what he says can do for the amount of $160 + -

then its worth not being stuck at a stop sign for 1-2minuites because you are showing off in front of some hoodrats.

seems like a good concepts and yeah, he seems like a smart guy.

well heres how i see it,add one years worth of nitro refills and compair that to the 160 to have a way to fill your tanks twice as fast as your current setup may not be as fast as nitro but you wont be waiting for 7 mins for your tank to fill to 145 and its more reliable then nitro as well , hell with that money u could even upgrade to better comps and get better performance out of your system

takes the space of a 5 gallon tank? when is it availible and are you selling it from a web site somewhere? will it be a set system size or can some of the parts be moved around so i can fit in in a cars spare tire well.

Originally posted by wantmolo



well heres how i see it,add one years worth of nitro refills and compair that to the 160 to have a way to fill your tanks twice as fast as your current setup may not be as fast as nitro but you wont be waiting for 7 mins for your tank to fill to 145 and its more reliable then nitro as well , hell with that money u could even upgrade to better comps and get better performance out of your system

I can't get into gret detail, but I have designed a system that will alow the removal of nitro for one reason (high pressure) I am going to design a system for MATT@Guage's Hopper. to alow him to hop comtinousley at 600PSI with no nitro tank

also, do you have different set ups for different compressors? i would assume that the sweet spot for an oasis hp1000 is different than a viair 450c...

Originally posted by Waldog25





First off, Franklin was not trying to re-invent the wheel.

As I stated before, this goal may be somewhat possible, however, I still don't see how you can tell me that they will save money by adding all these extra components and the more connections you have the MORE possibility of air leaks.

Yeah it would be a great concept. But how much room do you have for something like this. A basic setup in most mini trucks and cars take up a decent amount of space because of the akward nature of the components. In the long run you still have not convinced me that is is worth while.

You get what you pay for.

And you said yourself 100% reuse is not possible. Therefore the system in inefficent from the start of the design.

Do you REALLY need that much air? REALLY?

I had two SMALL thomas or whatever those little guys were when I first put cans on my Civic, and those suckers could air my tank in under 3 min from almost empty.

When your driving and you have a PSI switch, you don't need a constant supply of air, it kicks on when you need it.

If someone is using the switches that much you are talking about hoppin competion, and either you juice it, or you use compressed nitrogen like Scrape-N-Customs did for the civic that they could flip over.

So to recap:

A. 100% reuse is not possible

B. More connections = More Leaks

C. More components = More $$$

D. SPACE CONCERNS

Dude, I am all for innovention, but really man, I personally think they are other options to be explored like LIQUID NITROGEN.

A small bottle of LIQUID NITROGEN when off gassed could created enough compressed gas to give you a bunch of ups.

I mean you would have to do the math on it, and by all means I am not a chemist, but I work with them, and I have seen the possibilities.

Of course all of this is can be a safety concern. Especially liquid nitrogen, it's probably not something you want to drive around with.

But then again, people are driving around with nitrogen, and even though that is an inert gas, it would not be pretty in an accident.

Anyways dude, good luck at the holy grail of air recycling.







A. even tho 100% recycling is not possible your still able to salvage some air instead of 100% waste when dumping. B.As long as you use dot fittings there should be no leaks. I dont have any leaks out of my entire system so a leak free system is very posible. c. the components are alot cheaper then adding another compressor, there just utilizing what you have to optiize your system. d. the space you add is only about a 5 gallon tank and i havent asked dave yet but im sure you could use a 2 gal and a 3 gal which are smaller tanks that can be tucked away easier.

Originally posted by thunderbird



takes the space of a 5 gallon tank? when is it availible and are you selling it from a web site somewhere? will it be a set system size or can some of the parts be moved around so i can fit in in a cars spare tire well.

Yes the kit is modular,

hell you can even use the spare tire as the tank Just trust me I am working out the details.

But orders now are pre-order only there is a list that the first 100 get a special deal. just E-amil me sales@landisusa.comfor more details.

Originally posted by jmn444



also, do you have different set ups for different compressors? i would assume that the sweet spot for an oasis hp1000 is different than a viair 450c...

Yup every kit will be custom made to order.