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Off-topic \  Mayor of the NO lashes out.. check this.

Mayor of the NO lashes out.. check this.

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Nic   +1y
Edited: 9/4/2005 12:48:01 PM by Nic

Ok I'll explain myself alittle better. Re-read my posts which I was extremely pissed at the time, alot of what I said could have easily be misread. For one about the bush assasination comment, meaning that with the 'blacks' in america pulling their 'racist cards' I'm sure they'll rise up (example: Jesse Jackson is doing a good job of pissing off the blacks). That's what I'm meaning, everyone is looking at Bush for help and he misread que cards on Wednesday and isn't really the best speaker (no emotion rather then the little smile smeark), didn't say "I am taking over command and mobilizing all our military to get them to the gulf NOW"... On Wednesday he didn't say ANYTIHNG to that effect. He just said cheer up and look to the future. The mayor can only do so much, but this is out of his hands and the governor's, I'm sure he went thru his proper procedure to get marshal law instated, but he only had like around 1,200 national guard troops to assist because the rest is in Iraq and afganistan. Which I agree is good they're there, but they WOULDN'T BE THERE if the damn U.N. would assist the U.S. in the middle east, but that's a completely different discussion.

Finally on Saturday I finally smiled and felt like an American when the troops started arriving in force, and Saturday when all the aircraft was in and evacuated 10,000+ people!!! That was America at it's finest hour. That SHOULD have happened within days, not a week. Helicopters and planes within our own country can be there within HOURS. It's not like the gulf coast is around the planet and takes a week to get there. I didn't say yank our troops from Iraq, I just said they should have left allready due to the U.N. turned their backs on Terrorism. I SUPPORT 110% the troops.

My MOS was 1300 maintenace. I was in the rear with the gear with the beans and the bullets. Yet also was up front with fuel trucks to keep the caravans and helicopters fueled up to keep going and push on. Someone with some stars on their shoulders yells GO!!! You shove your foot to the floor and go. With this Huricane no one with any stars on their shoulders yelled GO!!!! Ya we didn't "train for huricane relief", and we're NOT at war with new orleans, I agree. But FEMA don't have enough staff to handle this, as well as the coast guard. They was there within the first days, but that's it. Military is not all about guns and shooting and taking over. In order to do that you have to have supplies (beans and the bullets), which is where the military would do and IS NOW DOING!!!! Military has Doctors and field medical. With being in Maintenance MOS we setup water purifing stations dropped in by helicopters, fuel stations, electrical generators to setup camps, do all kinds of stuff within hours!!! Ok a day to pack, a day to get there, but within hours to setup. That's 2 days. But it don't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the U.S. government has a SHIT LOAD OF HELICOPTERS!!!! And we have a shit load of military bases all over the U.S. with them. Like that one letter asking Bush if he lost his keys to the helicopters? From Oklahoma and Kansas to mississippi is roughly 10-16 hour drive to the ocean. Helicopters I'm sure takes half that time. Not 6 days.



I'm disappointed with the leadership. The breakdown was somewhere? FEMA, Mayor, Governor, congress, Bush??? If it wasn't for the NEWS to get in there and report this mess I bet the reaction time would probably be MORE. Yes the huricane was HUGE, and rescue wasn't sitting and waitting ready to go immediately. But 2 days notice. To evacuated 1.5 million people in 2 days is practically impossible. The poverty is not going to move which is a good percentage of the gulf coast. Alot of us Mini-truckers see what the thugs do when we go to Showfest in Greenville mississippi. That's a good example, the town of G'ville loves us to come and bring in $$$, but alot of us are NOT going back due to the thugs, hit and runs, fights, etc... That's what's going on with the inner city of N.O. The thugs, druggies, and gang bangers. They don't have drugs and that's all they know so they was shooting at hospitals and people helping. They're un-educated, which they're blaming the government for the 'free ride' welfare. Alot are kids and children, fuck their parents for putting their kids in that situation, THAT IS THE SAD PART!!!! Screw the parents that can't help themselves or SUPPORT them damn selves, yet they think they can bring into this world 2 or 3 or 4 kids!!! That's just NOT RIGHT!!!! Then they blame the government for their own non-educated actions. Again this is another discussion.

This entire situation is really 2 rescues. 1 was huricane, and 2nd is the flood due to the levees. If New Orleans was designed correctly this mess would not be here. I wouldn't blame bush 100% for not reinforsing the levees, Clinton or bush sr. could have reinforsed it years ago. So what have I done since I'm here creating this BOOK? I'm donating and helping where I can. If I was single I would load up, grab a boat and head to the gulf and help out; however, I have a family and we're helping by donating and teaching my kids how to help.My main concern was NO LEADERSHIP!!! The U.S. has the CIA, we have satalites, cell and satelite phones, all the aircraft we can use, the worlds largest military, NASA, we can go to the moon and mars and back, yet can't get help from the government within a week. General Honore is doing an excellent JOB!!! Why? He has BALLS, and is saying how it is... He's not worrying about it in some committee. HE HAS THE POWER and is USING IT FULLY to do GOOD!!!!!! That's what it TAKES!!!!! Someone to put their FOOT DOWN AND FRIGGEN DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AWESOME!!!! But it took 6 days to get there
Big Rik   +1y
Edited: 9/4/2005 12:18:14 PM by Big Rik

Edited: 9/4/2005 12:13:47 PM by Big Rik

Your comment about Bush " not being 100% responsible for reinforcing the levees" Where did you grow up? Since when is it a presidents job to tell someone how to construct a city? Last i heard they were in office to run the country, they arent enginieers or city builders. How long has New Orleans been there? How long have these levees been holding back the water? The idiots who built NO should have had the sense to either raise the elevation to above sea level, or ask the government to help reinforce the levees or do it themselves. I seriously hope you were kidding when dumping the blame for that off on ANY previous president, republican or democrat.

Im also gonna comment on yoru "6 days" bullshit youve been spreading. The damage to NO was done on Monday, the bulk o the troops began arriving on Friday. i count 4 days, not 6. Im about tired of every saying 6 days 6 days, TODAY (SUNDAY) Has been 7 days since the hurricane, and 6 since the flooding, the troops were being convoyed in on Friday. Check your math next time. And before you tell everyone you only said 6 days this time, here is an excerpt from a post you made on Sept. 2nd:

Nic Morel: "We're the strongest, most technological country and can't get to our own backyard within a WEEK!!!!!! If we have enough troops and support in our country and able to keep our troops overseas in the big cat box, then so be it, but politicians talk alot of shit of saying support is on the way, but it's NOT THERE!!!! 6 damn days later!"

Also gotta call ya on this too: "yet can't get Help from the government within a week" I dont know where you went to school, but i was taught that 7 days was a week, so i think they got help there in less than a week.

. Now today Sunday is Sept. 4th. You said something about "6 days" today, and then "6 days" on Friday, so which is it? I think it shows you need to think before you put your thoughts out in public view, especially when the facts are there for EVERYONE in America to see for themselves.

The last thing im saying regarding previous comments you made is, that you should do more research before you post. Youve claimed no help arrived till 6 days later. National Guard troops (approx. 2000 were on site Tuesday morning) granted they werent enough, but none the less, there were troops in NO the following day
lowestyota   +1y
mad props to ray nagin the mayor of no. ill never forget that guys name
Nic   +1y
Edited: 9/5/2005 10:13:02 AM by Nic

Pres. signs the bill to where the $$$ goes. He is the appointed figure. Maybe not on him directly, but his entire cabinet and administration. Yes he is not an engineer and he don't drive bulldozers nor he's a contractor.



And as far as the 6 day crap. Ok I agree. The 2 day prior notice, blah blah blah. I'll go half way with you and do 5 days. LOL!!! Whatever. Lets just say since FEMA and national and coast gaurd was there by Tuesday, perhaps Monday that means 0 days? How long did it take Bush to fly there, do a speech on Wed and leave. Then schedule to fly back on Friday. I'm not talking about the calvary of convoy of military trucks driving in Friday. I'm talking about the BIRDS of the military!!! Why couldn't they FLY IN WEDNESDAY? OR THURSDAY!!!! That's what I'm talking about??? Ya the roads are bad and the "trucks" had a hard time to get there. But you can fly from California to Florida in how many hours???? Monday-Tuesday-Wed. I'm sure the FEMA, coast and national guard rescue PILIOTS need sleep!!! That's what I'm talking about. What's going on Saturday should have been Wed or Thursday at the least!!! But I'm sure the military had to wait for the "chain of command". And because of the 'slow chain of command' that's why the bulk govnmt support didn't show up until Friday afternoon/Saturday
ExplicitDesignz   +1y
This shit is getting sooo crazy down there. My dad works for Flowserve and him and a few other guys are down there fixing the pumps that pump out the city. Man, I`ve heard so much shit from him that the media is hiding, its rediculous.
mccook8   +1y
The NUMBER ONE thing that New Orleans was lacking was not transportation,

it wasn't law enforcement or security,

it wasn't federal tax dollars,

it wasn't national sympathy.

IT WAS LEADERSHIP.

And hizzoner, the Mayor of New Orleans, flat out ADMITTED it when he gave high praise to that General (you know, the "John Wayne dude" that Bush sent, according to hizzoner?).

Well, let's take a close look at what "the Duke" actually DID: he got off the chopper and started cussing at people and things started getting done. That's what the Mayor said.

Now: if a show of determination and a few (or a bunch of) abrasive words were all it took to get things moving, then WHY, OH WHY wasn't the MAYOR, the elected leader of the city, the Grand Poo-Bah of New Orleans, up to that simple task?

He can point all the fingers that he wants to, but one thing I've noticed is that he never even CLAIMS to have ASKED FOR any kind of assistance BEFORE the levees failed. Even when he ordered that "mandatory" evacuation, he didn't ask for "500 buses" then, did he?

Damn, dude, criticize the President of the United States for taking (at the time) THREE days to get help there when his responsibility is at least two layers removed from YOUR OWN first-line responsibility.

Mayor Nagin isn't a leader......he just plays one on TV.
gmoyeshavedclean   +1y
I read everything and agree with some and disagree with others, We all are quick too say what we would have done, or what we want do, but you don
my95ondubs   +1y
first of all i agree people stealing pant and shoes is fucking retarded and i agree that a three day notice is way long enough for my ass to start walking also did nebody see the clip of the guy walking out of a walmart with a powerwheels i guess he was gonna ride that motherfucker but in any case i almost have no pity sorry
mccook8   +1y
Hope you've got your flame suit on, Greg....

....you should know better than to think you can get away with expressing a Christian viewpoint in this land of Constitutionally-protected religious freedom.......
mccook8   +1y
Hey, Mr. Mayor, I think I found some BUSES for you:

http://billhobbs.com/hobbsonline/007188.html