gosh dern minitruckers...

"if they wore out easier, then 18 wheelers wouldn't use them for millions of miles"
i knew that was going to come up, semi's suspension doesn't articulate as much as most minitrucks suspensions do either, semis dont lay out and lift to full height on a daily basis.

not an expert, i think we use our bags for differently than a semi or ford. our systems are designed around the bag, they do the work, and we have other components that help them do it.how many times a day do the average mini trucker's bags go from 0psi to 80psi back to 0psi? a lot more than a semi's(never). most of the systems in trucks from factories the bags are just helpers, with some other substantial suspension holding the truck up. I could see how the constant rolling and unrolling could be bad. sorry for the bad spelling of everything, I'm damn tired.

Lincoln sleeve bags last about ten years.Then the bag next to the tailpipe dry rots and starts to leak.Not around the bottom but facing the tailpipe.I have only run the 9000's for about five years so I don't know how long they last.I have however blown the ring of the top from over inflating them.That is the only flaw I have found on a correct installed 9000.I think the reason people are scared of them is the fact that there so thin and there friend told them it was crap even though he has never run them.With that said I still use them on everything thats not a canti.It only takes about 70 pounds to max them out and if your not a dumbass you can get many years of safe use from a 9000.

Edited: 11/24/2006 10:20:53 PM by sadexcuse4s10

Originally posted by TUCKINTEMPO



"if they wore out easier, then 18 wheelers wouldn't use them for millions of miles"i knew that was going to come up, semi's suspension doesn't articulate as much as most minitrucks suspensions do either, semis dont lay out and lift to full height on a daily basis.



laying out and lifting to full height doesn't matter man, a semi's airbags oscilate millions of times more than any of our airbags on our trucks ever will. They also see much worse weather conditions than our trucks.

Airticulation only affects sleeve bags if they are completely bottomed out or extended. These bags are designed to be limited in their collapsed and extended heights. You can't just bolt them up in the rear and expect them to work forever. They will pull apart or crush themselves if they aren't installed correctly, with shocks or limiting straps, and with 1/4" slack when laid out

Edited: 11/25/2006 12:31:49 AM by LKrayzie

Originally posted by KAOSS



not an expert, i think we use our bags for differently than a semi or ford.

i personally dont like the sleeve bags, but when i redid the air system in my lincoln i used the stock sleeves in the front, they got 10" of lift, but put some 2600's in the back.

sleeve bags suck ass, had 4 set in 3 months blow out and nothing close to them, the plate at the bottom rubs the inside of the bag when aired out and causes them to blow from the inside out

ya i used to work on crown vics and the bags i dont think are meant to go up and down bottoming ou/ tere good for ride heights with added weight for a helper but bottoming out all the timeisnt good. and especially folding over itself over and over makes them wear out faster. and yes the bottoms are plastic which i never thought was safe

i stayed away because you could only get them in a 1/4" port when I was in the market to buy some.

you guys cant compare an f9000 style bag to the ones used on large vehicles and equipment.....


i think they are more tempermental than a double convoluted bag that you see on the average minitruck that has "drag that shit" spray painted on the side of it.....

I think the biggest thing is that minitruckers dont like to do anything within the constraints of the products they're using..lol. If you dont limit an F9000's lift and drop, you will dammage it...period. There isn't much of a margin of error in the set up of those bags. They werent designed to hop, or to roll around at 0 psi, so in the minitruck world, they suck. Of course, pretty much every other niche in the custom vehicle market has embraced the sleeve bag...when set up properly, it gets decent lift and the ride quality the progressive spring rate of the sleeve gives you is amazing.