Juice vs Air (ppl who have done both i need ur opnions)

juice that biotch!

I've dabbled with air, but I have had juiced rides in 4 vehicles, and once you dial in the system you'll like it better. Especially on an accord, it's a walk in the park. On a car with macpherson struts (pushin' 22s), it's a little more tricky and it won't ride as good as the strut holds the entire front suspension together therefore the cylinder has pressure pushed on it from the sides.

Thanks for all the replies guys. I think I will be going with Juice and have the pros at Go EZ do it lol.

Just gotta sell my truck now lol. Havent had a problem finding nice Accords for cheap.

Thanks again everyone.

Originally posted by AON-OFFDAHOOK



I've dabbled with air, but I have had juiced rides in 4 vehicles, and once you dial in the system you'll like it better. Especially on an accord, it's a walk in the park. On a car with macpherson struts (pushin' 22s), it's a little more tricky and it won't ride as good as the strut holds the entire front suspension together therefore the cylinder has pressure pushed on it from the sides.

was that for me? hahaha.. my car rides awesome.. im jeleous of the prelude, the setup is sick!!!

anywho...

the truth is.. this topic can go on forever. it's always going to be a debate.. juice vs air, air vs juice.. etc. i have had two bagged & body dropped trucks, which i could barely turn cause i didn't get enough lift.. then moved on to a bagged honda.. hated it. then switched the honda over to juice and i'll never go back to air. ive owned 3 juiced vehicles now, and i've loved every minute of it.

honestly, i'd rather change a 30 cent seal then a 80 dollar air bag.. and it's easy to do. it takes no longer then 10 minutes.. seriously.

if your car leaks, you know where it's at.. tighten it up, spray down some degreaser, whipe the oil up and your done.

accumulators are a must have. stick with parker accumulators or cce. (stay away from the new shit pro hopper carries, it's hot garbage.)

as for what h22wagon said about the street charger.. i don't have optimas, i run the big bulky ac delco batteries. for a couple reasons is.. they are easy to get a hold of, no wait, if they burn up, or loose charge.. ac delco replaces them for free... (can't beat that right?) and at $52 a battery, they are easy on the pockets. i've used them in 2/3 cars.. i had optimas in my juiced honda, and they just didn't stay charged with the street charger.. due to the whole trickle ordeal.

as for kit fittings, i've always thrown them away, or kept them for last minute spares, but i've always spent the money and got parker fittings.. you get what you pay for. as for the fittings in the kits, you can usually just clean the threads with a wire brush to get the cheap chrome off, dirt.. etc, but why risk it? just do it right the first time with the good shit and never have to do it again.

i learned a lot from "layitlow.com" it's a lowrider/hydraulic website.. forums, etc. if you have a question, you can find it out on there. everything from hoses, to seals to batterys is covered on that site.. diagrams for wiring aswell.

cce makes a strut setup for your car, give them a call, it's basically a bolt in coilover with a hydraulic cylinder.. i did these on a friends car, with accumulators and it rode like a DREAM. i can't even belive how well it rode to this day.. floated over eveyrthing.. dips.. bumps.. rough roads.. never felt it, it laid flat, they were compeltely bolt in.. it took literlly like 3 days to put it all in.. and thats the working on it for 2 hours.. lunch.. beer.. another hour of work... kind of days. so if you can weld up a battery rack and pump rack, do it yourself and save your self that extra money for something else you want.

.. most people that hate hydraulics is due to they've seen them at their worst, but talk to some of us that daily drive their juiced cars.. took the time on them, we've all said the same thing.. we're never going back.

ps: i used to tow with my juiced expo on 24"s... just over built everything. looked like a tank underneith. hahaha.

theres my trunk, clean and simple. you don't have to go crazy.

yeah james is right. most people that talk crap about hyraulics dont really know the details, hell most probley havent even rode in a juiced car/truck. i know we all have seen crappy hydro installs, but we have all seen crappy air installs to. just take your time and learn everything and how it works and you should be good. just remember we are all here to help so dont be scared to ask even if you think its a lame question. imo if you know how to weld and fab you should do your own install, it will help you learn everything and you will know wha goes wrong if it does.

and james, thats good info about the ac delco batteries. what size do you use, have a part number by any chance?

Edited: 10/23/2007 5:17:43 PM by R0CKSTAR

Thing is I cant do much. When I lived with my dad he always took his to a pro shop so it would be done good. Then he moved to Oklahoma a few years ago and I live with my mom now (Im 16 but 17 in like 3 days). So ya she doesnt know anything and we got no tools lol. I mean me and my friends could do some stuff but for the suspension Id rather a good shop do it you know.

H22wagon said he should have told the people that make the streetcharger that he was going to run optimas. Does any one know why, because this is the exact way I planned on going. I already have the 24v streetcharger and was going to buy the batts soon. Thanks.

its all a personal choice. its like the debate over billets verses chromes.either way it all boils down to your setup working proprly.bags or juice.................just shut up and drag.

Edited: 10/23/2007 6:58:26 PM by JuicedFord

Originally posted by Master Fabber



H22wagon said he should have told the people that make the streetcharger that he was going to run optimas. Does any one know why, because this is the exact way I planned on going. I already have the 24v streetcharger and was going to buy the batts soon. Thanks.

optimas require a slow trickle charge & with the street charger it doesn't do that, so they don't really charge as well as a normal deep cycle battery.

my buddy had four red tops in his jetta, with a street charger, and it was always dead... switched to deep cycle trojan batterys and he hasnt charged them since.

Originally posted by h22wagon



yeah james is right. most people that talk crap about hyraulics dont really know the details, hell most probley havent even rode in a juiced car/truck. i know we all have seen crappy hydro installs, but we have all seen crappy air installs to. just take your time and learn everything and how it works and you should be good. just remember we are all here to help so dont be scared to ask even if you think its a lame question. imo if you know how to weld and fab you should do your own install, it will help you learn everything and you will know wha goes wrong if it does.

and james, thats good info about the ac delco batteries. what size do you use, have a part number by any chance?

i'll look, i forget the part number, but ther are just 660cca, their the smaller ones, they have 900ccas and are the same price..