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wickedinsides
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and the name of his shop is "quality collision"... how bout renamin it to popcorn weld collision... truck is hacked up, you need to get over it bro and give that thing what it deserves... a match and 5 gallons of gas
PatFukenBurke
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SubCulture S10
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Pat, first off it has been awhile since I've seen your name or your work. I remember you like shannon from back in the day with Wayne and all of them and Jamie Cici. Me and jamie are real close friends, I know you probably don't remember me but we met several times in the 90's mainly. I love the truck, your work from then was 2nd to none & for all these guys posting, kinda makes me sad to see the new guys in the sport speaking so quick like. Ask questions then give opinions!
If I was closer, it would be an honor for you to build anything I have, or even dreamed about. Much props, and I hope that my eyes will get a chance to see that dodge up close soon.
And to comment on your post about throwing it togethet to hang out with old friends, have some beers, and b/s? EXACTLY! I miss those times in the Minitruckin scene. Glad to see your doing good, and keep dishing out the rides people won't forget. From one old school to another? GREAT JOB!
If I was closer, it would be an honor for you to build anything I have, or even dreamed about. Much props, and I hope that my eyes will get a chance to see that dodge up close soon.
And to comment on your post about throwing it togethet to hang out with old friends, have some beers, and b/s? EXACTLY! I miss those times in the Minitruckin scene. Glad to see your doing good, and keep dishing out the rides people won't forget. From one old school to another? GREAT JOB!
thacru78
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Edited: 8/29/2008 2:45:01 AM by thacru78
Edited: 8/29/2008 2:36:36 AM by thacru78
Intelligent response huh.....
I don't know much about Dodge's but i'll take a crack at this one. Couple of problems I see in you claims.....
1. 5 inch Body drop......Pictured above is a Dodge Ram laying true rail on 22's. As you can see in the pic....there is not very much room between the ground and the pinch......I know for a fact that it is 3 1/4 inch from the bottom of the frame to the bottom of the door on a 02+ Dodge Ram. So unless you are cutting 1 3/4 inch off the bottom of the door then this truck is not body dropped 5 inches. Unless.....you are adding the "Z" into this equation. Which I think you are since it takes roughly a 2 inch Z to lay true rail. If that's the case the Pat Fuken Burke didn't build the first BD ram on 26's. One Off Design did....they "Z'd" this truck...therefor in your mind they bodydropped it 2 inches on 26's.
http://www.truckinweb.com/features/0704tr_2002_dodge_ram/index.html
2. Couldn't run a IFS and keep the truck a daily driver without tearing up wheels......
I am currently running a stock aluminum dodge spindle (not drop spindles)...tubular uppers with BLF uni-joints...tubular lowers with a flipped chevy balljoint. I get 14 inches of travel. The truck is perfectly aligned at 3 inches off the ground (was aligned this morning...took 30 minutes) Post alignment it has -4 degrees layed out.....-2 degress at full lift...+1 at half travel. At ride height (3 inches off the ground) I can turn at any red light/stop sign in my town. I turn at 3 stop lights, and 3 stop signs on the way home from the shop. I don't have to lift at any of them. I untuck the wheel by an inch at full lift.... Which is more than enough room to turn....not to mention I can turn lock to lock tucking wheel (not tire...wheel)I still have the majority of the factory lip on my fenders....with some minor trimming. If that is not drivable I don't think any bagged truck on the road is. I put 10k in 3 months on my truck bagged before I started the BD. I had -7 degrees camber layed out.....+3 at full lift. I had less clearance than I currenlty do. When I took the wheels off for the BD i didnt' label them....I cannot tell the difference between any of them..front or rear. 10k miles on the tires on a bagged truck and you can't tell the difference between the fronts and the rears....you can daily a bagged truck without tearing up tires...it's called an alignment and a air gauge. You should try it out they both work wonders. As you can see by the pic i have very minimal tread wear. You can run a IFS, tuck large wheels on a BD, and untuck them. You just got to use all the available options.
3. Tuckin nuts......
A picture takin at a 45 degree angle doesn't mean your tucking nuts....if that's the case then my wifes stock car is tucking nuts....depending on what angle I take the picture from.
4. Will lay a 30 as soon as we can afford them.....Maybe the suspension will allow for a 30....but the sheetmetal says diffent. Unless the one-off full sheetmetal custom fenders are just temporary also.....
I know you think i'm hating and boo hoo hoo......I'm not. I could care less what your building or anyone else for that mattera as far as hating is concerned. I don't have 20+ years of experience....This was my second truck to bag...first to body drop...and first full frame. I did all of it in my garage with harbor frieght tools....a miller welder and a plasma cutter. I just want you to be honest with the trucking community. The truck isn't body dropped 5 inches.....it won't lay a 30....and you don't have to straight axle a truck to be able to body drop it on big wheels. I also find it hard to believe that you would of went through all the trouble of mounting the radiator and trans cooler...just to throw a front suspension together for a show. Your "Im Pat Fuken Burke" ain't gonna get you anywhere here or anywhere in this scene. It's not he 90's anymore as Soon as you debut something ground breaking...some kid in his garage with a cracker box welder will one up ya. I don't know though I really don't know that much about Dodge's....Layed out on a 1 inch piece of aluminum...32+1=26's....all stock sheetmetal.
Maybe one day I can come up to Quality Collision and Pat Fuken Burke can share his intelligence with me....particulary about Dodge's.
Edited: 8/29/2008 2:36:36 AM by thacru78
Intelligent response huh.....
I don't know much about Dodge's but i'll take a crack at this one. Couple of problems I see in you claims.....
1. 5 inch Body drop......Pictured above is a Dodge Ram laying true rail on 22's. As you can see in the pic....there is not very much room between the ground and the pinch......I know for a fact that it is 3 1/4 inch from the bottom of the frame to the bottom of the door on a 02+ Dodge Ram. So unless you are cutting 1 3/4 inch off the bottom of the door then this truck is not body dropped 5 inches. Unless.....you are adding the "Z" into this equation. Which I think you are since it takes roughly a 2 inch Z to lay true rail. If that's the case the Pat Fuken Burke didn't build the first BD ram on 26's. One Off Design did....they "Z'd" this truck...therefor in your mind they bodydropped it 2 inches on 26's.
http://www.truckinweb.com/features/0704tr_2002_dodge_ram/index.html
2. Couldn't run a IFS and keep the truck a daily driver without tearing up wheels......
I am currently running a stock aluminum dodge spindle (not drop spindles)...tubular uppers with BLF uni-joints...tubular lowers with a flipped chevy balljoint. I get 14 inches of travel. The truck is perfectly aligned at 3 inches off the ground (was aligned this morning...took 30 minutes) Post alignment it has -4 degrees layed out.....-2 degress at full lift...+1 at half travel. At ride height (3 inches off the ground) I can turn at any red light/stop sign in my town. I turn at 3 stop lights, and 3 stop signs on the way home from the shop. I don't have to lift at any of them. I untuck the wheel by an inch at full lift.... Which is more than enough room to turn....not to mention I can turn lock to lock tucking wheel (not tire...wheel)I still have the majority of the factory lip on my fenders....with some minor trimming. If that is not drivable I don't think any bagged truck on the road is. I put 10k in 3 months on my truck bagged before I started the BD. I had -7 degrees camber layed out.....+3 at full lift. I had less clearance than I currenlty do. When I took the wheels off for the BD i didnt' label them....I cannot tell the difference between any of them..front or rear. 10k miles on the tires on a bagged truck and you can't tell the difference between the fronts and the rears....you can daily a bagged truck without tearing up tires...it's called an alignment and a air gauge. You should try it out they both work wonders. As you can see by the pic i have very minimal tread wear. You can run a IFS, tuck large wheels on a BD, and untuck them. You just got to use all the available options.
3. Tuckin nuts......
A picture takin at a 45 degree angle doesn't mean your tucking nuts....if that's the case then my wifes stock car is tucking nuts....depending on what angle I take the picture from.
4. Will lay a 30 as soon as we can afford them.....Maybe the suspension will allow for a 30....but the sheetmetal says diffent. Unless the one-off full sheetmetal custom fenders are just temporary also.....
I know you think i'm hating and boo hoo hoo......I'm not. I could care less what your building or anyone else for that mattera as far as hating is concerned. I don't have 20+ years of experience....This was my second truck to bag...first to body drop...and first full frame. I did all of it in my garage with harbor frieght tools....a miller welder and a plasma cutter. I just want you to be honest with the trucking community. The truck isn't body dropped 5 inches.....it won't lay a 30....and you don't have to straight axle a truck to be able to body drop it on big wheels. I also find it hard to believe that you would of went through all the trouble of mounting the radiator and trans cooler...just to throw a front suspension together for a show. Your "Im Pat Fuken Burke" ain't gonna get you anywhere here or anywhere in this scene. It's not he 90's anymore as Soon as you debut something ground breaking...some kid in his garage with a cracker box welder will one up ya. I don't know though I really don't know that much about Dodge's....Layed out on a 1 inch piece of aluminum...32+1=26's....all stock sheetmetal.
Maybe one day I can come up to Quality Collision and Pat Fuken Burke can share his intelligence with me....particulary about Dodge's.
Slammed83Mazda
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Pat I've seen your work, you build some wicked hoppers.
But in this case, slapping together a front kit and what not just for a show and to drink some beer, is a sad excuse. That bushing in that one pic is brand new and that bolt looks like its barely hanging on. Regardless if you did just throw it together, it doesn't look good on your or your company, and the i'm pat fuken burke attitude doesnt either. I know alot of people were looking forward to seeing this because of the big hype, me included. Not trying to sound like father time here, but those pic's speak for thereself.
But in this case, slapping together a front kit and what not just for a show and to drink some beer, is a sad excuse. That bushing in that one pic is brand new and that bolt looks like its barely hanging on. Regardless if you did just throw it together, it doesn't look good on your or your company, and the i'm pat fuken burke attitude doesnt either. I know alot of people were looking forward to seeing this because of the big hype, me included. Not trying to sound like father time here, but those pic's speak for thereself.
FullSizeRST
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Originally posted by thacru78
Guess i'm tucking nuts also....time to go get me a badass Tukin Nuts sticker.
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Guess i'm tucking nuts also....time to go get me a badass Tukin Nuts sticker. can i get on too?
Guess i'm tucking nuts also....time to go get me a badass Tukin Nuts sticker.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Guess i'm tucking nuts also....time to go get me a badass Tukin Nuts sticker. can i get on too?
mindlissmetalfab
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Edited: 8/29/2008 11:04:40 AM by iLLblazer
Edited: 8/29/2008 11:03:57 AM by iLLblazer
Jerry your truck is looking great. If anything I would think the IFS would have saved the stock sheet metal on Burkes cuz the camber looks like it allows the wheel to clear that fender on yours. Go rent some 26s and shut this guy up.
Edited: 8/29/2008 11:03:57 AM by iLLblazer
Jerry your truck is looking great. If anything I would think the IFS would have saved the stock sheet metal on Burkes cuz the camber looks like it allows the wheel to clear that fender on yours. Go rent some 26s and shut this guy up.
SixInchWat
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people like BIG(thacru7 are the reason i sold the Jimmy and am out of this fucking scene...