Are Christians Among us???

The Bible tells you how you can get into heaven and have eternal life. You have to fully believe and understand that the Lord Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins and rose on the third day to be with his Father in heaven; and you have to confess with your mouth your sins and ask the Lord Jesus to come into your heart and save your soul. Once you get saved, your name will be in the book of life.

I am going to quote the Romans Road from the KJV Bible...

Romans 3:10 “As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one.â€

The truth according to ONE faith and ONE book. There are many faiths and many books-some outdating the Christian religion by thousands oy years.What about them? I realize I am not going to change anyone's mind here nor are you going to change mine.However, I believe I have been around a little longer than most people on this site, have seen a little more, heard a little more and have seen what kinds of things that mankind, religious or otherwise is capable of doing to each other. Keep an open mind, you might be surprised what slips in there when you are least expecting it. I am off this thread as we have nothing more to gain by further discussion. Thanks. BJ

Just to reply to you, even if you don't come back

In Old Testament there were many, many, MANY, religions as well. They worshipped all kinds of different gods. They created gods themselves for certain things etc.

Mormons believe God was once a human and that He is from another planet/solar system, and became a God. Johovah Witness's don't believe Christ is God, and many other wierd things I don't remember right off hand. Gnostics believe believe the serpant who caused Adam to sin was a "good guy" lol, and many othe wierd things. Buddhist believe one can "enlighten" themselves to the point where they too can become a god. Islamist/Muslims believe Muhammad was the greatest prophet and they also believe Christ was just a prophet and a "good" person, never mind the fact that Christ claimed to be "The Son of God" in which would make Him insane and a liar, IF He were only a prophet as they claim Him to be.

Like it or not, not every religion can be "right". There has to be One ultimate God, correct? There can be only one way to Heaven, and it has to be through the only one that "gaurds the gate" so to speak.

What people are capable of doing to each other is the product of man himself, not any God. Man get's the message wrong, or he just decides for himself what is right. The Pope caused the "Crusades", which were based on nothing but the promise that if you killed muslims, you'd have all your sins forgiven. Well if the idiot people would have known their Bibles as they should they would have known that's not right. So it's up to us the individuals to know the Word of God and what it says. And it says "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life." It's says the great "I AM" created the heavens and the earth and made man in His image.

No matter if you agree with Christianity or not, you have to know there can be only ONE correct answer, not many. You better hope and pray you've chosen the right one.



Btw I am 31 and have studied about many of the other religions through conversations with those who believe them and with those who have truly studied them themselves. So I've probably got just about, if not more, as much experience as you do.

There will be many, many, "good" people in Hell. Good will never be good enough for the one who desires perfection.

1HotDawg, you make some good points. The Bible does mention people worshiping other gods (lowercase g) and it says that its a sin. A lot of people will not trust the Lord Jesus as their personal savior; remember, we are all going to die one day and face the jugment of our Lord. Weather you are washed in the blood or as lost as you can be...it is for eternity.

Eternity - are you ready?

At the risk of being really p/o'd, one more shot at this. NO, there doesnt have ti be just 1 way and NO there doesnt have to be just 1 " gatekeeper", and NO at 31 you dont come close to having my experience. Please believe what you wish,as long as it meets your needs great.There are several billion other humans on this Earth that do not beleive what you believe, and I ,for one, firmly believe that I am as entitled to my beliefs and they to theirs as you to yours and that puts me and them no more,or less, in jeopardy than you.The only thing that puts us all in jeopardy are those that think that they have the answer and all the rest of us are just lost souls looking for it. I aint buying it.Go to your Book some time and see what it says about tolerance. BJ

Hey now, it is your own fault if you are getting angry. Nobody here is attacking you. If you don't like what is being posted then don't read it. I for one am not telling you what to believe or how to live your life. Your life is your life.

The Bible doesn't say a thing about tolerance to be honest It say to love one another.

John 13:35-35
34"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."

If God allowing men to serve other gods is intolerant than that is exactly what He is...intolerrant of us not abiding by Him.

I am really thankful you came back...atleast once more...as I enjoy talking with you, and I have tried not, and hoepfuly have not, to condemn you...which is not what I sould do anyway.

But it's still true, like or not, there can be only one path to Heaven, whether Christianity is the way or not, there can still only be one way. Let me ask you, what makes you think that any god would want us worshipping another god and still let us into Heaven? That's like saying your children, although you born them, can chose any parent they want and you're going to still send them your "blessing" and "inheritance".

We serve, or were just created by, a loving God. Yet He is a jealous God.

Exodus 20:5
5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God

Exodus 34:14
Do not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.

Deuteronomy 4:24
For the LORD your God is a consuming fire, a jealous God.

Deuteronomy 6:15
for the LORD your God, who is among you, is a jealous God and his anger will burn against you, and he will destroy you from the face of the land.

Godbless you, and I pray you'll soften your heart toward the one and only Savior.

If God is perfect and all-knowing as you say,why would He allow himself the one of the most base of human emotions-jealously? Doesnt sound very God-like to me. Heaven? Not sure if there is any such environment but if there is, I am also sure that it is right here where we are every day.WE allow ourselves to sample it when we live a good life and we also allow ourselves to sample the other environment when we do a particularly crappy job of treating others as we would like to be treated-your Golden Rule.Why otherwise would your Book instruct us not to worry about riches for ourselves, but rather to invest in activities that would help others - i.e. "riches in Heaven"?On and on- but I have said I need to get off this thread and I will do so.BJ

hocbj23, I know God's word is true and I have faith in my Lord. I know you look at things much differently and there is nothing in my power that I can do about that. I will pray for you.

BTW, I am not being sarcastic.

If I believed this was as close to heaven as I was gonna get, uh why would I believe in a God at all then?

Funny thing is I once had the very opposite view lol, I thought this had to be Hell. Of course it is niether Heaven or Hell.

Sounds to me that you have faith only in humans not in any God.

Btw Heaven and earth are both fully described in the Bible, you just have to read it.

I have to ask, since you bring up that you don't believe Jealousy to be a God like characteristic qulaity, how would you describe God? (if you return).

And why get p/o'd with such a discussion? I've done very well imo not to condemn you or anyone else, I can't anyway. All I've done is posted Scriptures from our God's Word. And explained how/why I believe God's Word to be the Truth, and the only Truth. I'm looking at what God says, not how men act for my guidance.

God loves everyone, He loved us all enought to take the punishment we should each rightfully deserve so that we don't have to and so that He can have us with Him in Heaven. This free gift is open to every person created! If people don't accept it, it's not because God's a wrathful vengeful God lol, it's their own fault. He gives everyone the same opportunity to believe in Him. IF we chose not to, it's not His fault.

IF there are other Gods, paths to Heaven, what ever, what better or easier way is there? What God loves His people more than this God of the Christians? This is a God who took the punishment for us lowly humans who can't always live "right" and commit sin against Him. He sacrificed His only Son so that we could be with Him and not face the punishment Satan means for us.

Hell was created for Satan and his demons, not for a single human. Just in case you didn't know.

God offers His salvation to anyone that puts their faith in Him. If you don't, or chose to believe another god can save you, then it's not His fault, it's yours. Therefore you face the Judgement on account fo your own choice, not His.

If God can use such people as murderers in Scripture to spread His word, to save a nation of people, and to build His church on, then He can use you and me as well. You don't have to be perfect, for no one is. You just have to give your life to Him. (Moses was a murderer that God used to save the nation of Isreal. David was the greatest king to ever reign, and was God's most loved, and yet he murdered Bersheba's husband due to his lust for her. Paul, once the killer of Christians, is most responsible for the spread of God's word to the gentile people.)

As said earlier:

Decide for yourselves whom you will follow....but for me and my household, we'll follow the Lord God.

Wanna see how other gods stack up against our God, read about Elijah. Just one of many examples of the people not believing our god reigns Supreme

I have prayed for you and will continue to do so, that God would soften your heart to His truth, because He is the one whom holds your life in His hands. So if you choose, make sure you choose right.