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Beware of false prophets!

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hocbj23   +1y
For those who question the origin of the "big Bang"theory,try a good library book on quantum Mechanics or the behavior of sub-atomic particles or field theory or even thermodynamics.Lots of really strange things happen in the physical universe at both the atomic and sub-atomic levels,especially as u approach the speed of light and we certainly dont know all of them yet.BJ
lalunette   +1y


The hypocrisy of the church, the hypocrisy of church-goers, the inflexible attitude of catholic priests saying they are the only ones who can “interpretâ€
1hotdawg   +1y
Lalunette:

[quote]And lastly, this comment is alien to me since I simply can’t understand or rationalize why a person raised in this century would need to turn to religion to make their life “betterâ€
lalunette   +1y
Well 1HotDawg, let's agree to disagree... I'm not here to change your mind and it's clear to me I'm not changing mine.

You have your belief in God and I have science.

However, I know there is one thing we both believe in... minitruckin

Cheers !!
hex0rz   +1y
Wow! This sure has gotten into a HOT debate! I can't believe its gotten to be this lively! I can't even begin to discuss anything. Lol!

But from the top of my head, I will tell you this:

It was one of the hardest things for me to get into church. I have my beliefs in the Lord but it is an overwhelming thing at my age to really comprehend what the right environment is for me. Yes, you should have a trial and error eliminating process to see what church you feel God wants you to be there for. Although, it is a critical thing that even if you are a parent that does'nt have a belief in any religion that you give your kids the freedom to choose! Yes, and indeed if they choose my faith, that if you keep them from going to church, God will hold you accountable!

My parents let me have the freedom to go or not to go. I can make excuses, but in reality it is a healthier thing for me to be apart of a church. Although, I have always had a personal opinion that in my life, I have choosed not to go to church but I still pray to Jesus everyday in every way about things in life in general. It is risky because I could be attacked by the enemy and would'nt know better about how to defend myself. But this is what I have chose so far for a relationship with Christ.

Everything I do I try to let God act through me. Alot of things I ask him for, etc. I feel it is an important thing to understand the Holy spirit and conviction. With these I have had my personal relationship with Christ all the way, and have found to be less undisturbing from any propoganda of a church.

It is a little weird to understand why I chose to have it this way, but until I feel I get comfortable being around a large crowd of people in a church of people I do not know, I will be asking God to be there with me everyday of my life for things to happen!

One more thing; When we choose to have faith in Christ he has said he will never let us slip away from him once we are saved. Our lives in this physical world may be lesser of people who do not know him, but he gives us our guarantee that we will always be taken care of by him! He is our father and our provider. The only thing is, we may be guaranteed that we will be provided with the essentials he has also said that the boat we are in won't get across the lake without waves.

I pray about a situation in my life, I ask for a better job, or a gift. Sometimes I try to attain something before he has shown me a sign about it, and in doing so doors will not open because it is not his will that be there. I have faith that he has me in certain places for reasons and that when he wants me somewhere else, doors will open and oppurtunities will arise.

It is definitely my personal relationship with Christ that has definitely concencrated my faith that he reall is Lord and that he is a man that REALLY did exist! The funny thing is, people nowadays do not believe in Christ. That could be from denying him that he is the Messiah to the fact whether or not he existed. But the funny thing is, the Romans did have documentation that a man of his description did exist and that they did crucify him!
mazdamandan   +1y

Cool,
I gotta balance minitruckin with spiritual things, and its a challenge. lol
I believe science verifies God.
I dont approve of the hypocracy either, its very sad that those tragedies occurred, the abuse of children and crusades and all that in the name of faith.
Think of it this way Lalunette, If there is a God those who acted in evil in his name are in trouble!
Wishing all the best to you and yours, Lalunette.
Dan
lalunette   +1y


Cool!!

Where have you read/seen this? Can you provide a link to this documentation? Was this written by a contemporary or by someone years later on heresay?

Of course, with this having occurred almost 2,000 years ago, no one can be sure of anything. They sure didn't keep accurate records back in those days.

BTW, what do you think of all this stuff in the media lately about the ossuaries?

Cheers !!
lalunette   +1y


That reminds me of a joke...

A guy dies and goes to Hell. He is given the choice of picking his eternal punishment from behind 1 of 3 doors.

He opens the first door and sees a bunch of people standing chest deep in shit and sipping coffee. No happy with what he sees, he goes to the second door.

He opens the second door and sees a bunch of people standing chest deep in boiling oil and sipping coffee. No happy with what he sees, he goes to the third door.

He opens the third door and sees a bunch of people standing chest deep in boiling lava and sipping coffee.

Thinking back on the 3 doors he says to himself that standing chest deep in shit and sipping coffee for all eternity is better than boiling oil or boiling lava.

Having made his choice, he wades in to the shit and is about to reach for a cup and pour himself a coffee when he hears a booking voice say : "Coffee break's over, back on your heads!"
1hotdawg   +1y
Heh heh

As for the ossuaries. First off I think James Cameron was just looking for more excitement or something. Though he has been quoted in different interviews saying he does believe the info shared on the show.

Now for the facts This tomb has been excavated for 27 years now. Jewish, Isrealies, tons and tons of archeologists, scientist, scholars, etc, have looked and looked at these findings for many years. You heard, if you watched, all the naming info, though slanted toward the finding's being validated for the show lol. (did you watch the Ted Coppel thing after it as well? It shed some light as well). The bigger thing to me, I'd point out is, prominent leaders of the Jewish, Jewish religious leaders, scholars, etc. have looked at this and yet even they, the one's who don't believe in Christ ressurection to begin with, have said it is absolutely not the tomb of Christ! Now who, more than anyone else, would want to disprove Christ's ressurection? The Jews! They believe He was just a man, a heretic, who blasphemed God by considering Himself the Messiah. So if anyone was gonna say "yep that's Him alright", I'd think they'd be the first lol...all the other people's opinions for or against it don't matter as much in my eyes


If you want to hear about all the other documents attesting to Christ truly living, and even performing miracles, and dying unjustly, a good book that points out most of the material outside the Bible, is Lee Strobel's "The Case for Christ". I've just begun it these past few weeks, and already am very fascinated because, we've all heard of Josephus and his account about Christ actually living, and the Talmud mentioning Him, but man there are a lot of other historical sources even written before Josephus's account!

Strobel also does a good job in comparing how the historical account of Jesus, and the Gospels, have stood the test of time by their accuracy compared to many other historical works that people don't generally question. It's really eye opening also in how it puts to rest the belief that "the facts have been exagerated" that we hear all the time.

Oh yeah, did you know Buddha's "autobiography" (same as we'd call the Gospels being Christ's autobiography), was not written until 500+ years after his death? Yet how many people do you hear questioning it's validity and how it may have been doctored over the years? Same goes for Muhammad's stories, they are 100's of years after his life. Yet for Christ and the Gospels we have accounts that are maybe even closer to His death then the first we thought, which is Mark's account (if I'm correct ), which was so far as we can see written 30+/- years after the death of Christ. Even the latest, John's Gospel, was written around only 100 years after, or so we think right now.

As earlier stated, Strobel was not a Christian when doing his research, so don't let the fact that he is now make you think he leaned one way or the other, cuz honestly, he's just interviewing other prominent scholars, dr.'s, professors, etc. to get his info. Some of the people which have studied theological things for 30-40 yrs in some cases. That was what I liked about Koppel's thing after the show, he had 2 religious people on there, 1 priest, one evangelical, and one dude who was just an archeologist who didn't believe in Jesus at all lol, and yet that dude totally disagreed with the findings

Personally I don't care what they find lol, I won't change my life and how I'm living it for God now.
phatkix   +1y
you guys sure like religion.

all of your posts are paragraphs upon paragraphs.