??Pics of square body ranger Front end bag setups Please??

Hey please post any build pics of the front end bag setup a square body just wanna get some ideas I plan on layin mine out on 20's see any firewall tub pics and frame notches would also be helpful.  Oh yeah with the I-beams no front clip yet.  And any info on what all has to be done to lay out on 20's with ibeams would be awesome.  Thanxs yall

Why is everyone in love with I-beams lately? Read over this stuff:   http://www.streetsource.com/forum/topic.aspx?topic_id=106871&Topic_title=+84+Ranger+Frame&forum_id=88&forum_title=Classifieds%2fFor+Sale   http://www.streetsource.com/forum/topic.aspx?topic_id=80552&Topic_title=Layin+a+Ranger+WITH+Beams&forum_id=22&forum_title=Ford+Trucks   http://www.streetsource.com/forum/topic.aspx?topic_id=79390&Topic_title=84-95+yota+front+suspension&forum_id=16&forum_title=Suspensions http://www.streetsource.com/forum/topic.aspx?topic_id=76012&Topic_title=i+beams+vs+yota+clip&forum_id=22&forum_title=Ford+Trucks

Edited: 1/15/2009 1:41:21 AM by SoloSpecialties

because its more challenging then a s10 lol. we have a 95 fullsize in the shop right now bein BD on 15's with some monster tires(for 22's) on i beams.

it takes a lot of work bro...if you want to untuck your wheels your gonna need a good amount of lift especially if your body dropped...theres many different ways of doin it but it all comes down to a big pain in the ass haha...with my 91 i threw on some djm beams and then had to notch one to clear the oil pan, also you either need to notch the cross member under the engine or the beam or make new beam mounts to drop them lower but take into consideration if you do this the beam will angle more when the truck is dropped equalling more negative camber, you need to relocate your radius arms, news transmission crossmember, pull your fuel tank out of the stock location, also to lay on 2os your i beams are going to articulate back towards the firewall enough that you will have to cut off the mounts on the i beams and weld in some heim joints with misalignment spaces so you dont risk snapping a bolt. if you mount the bags on top of the outside of the i beam you will limit your turning radius so try to find a different way of doing it... like bags on radius arms or something but make sure to either redesign your radius arms or atleast plate them for additional strength...i  dont know how to post pics on here so if someone can pm me and show me ill post some, or pm me with your email address bro

--------------------------------------------- Originally posted by automatik23 it takes a lot of work bro...if you want to untuck your wheels your gonna need a good amount of lift especially if your body dropped...theres many different ways of doin it but it all comes down to a big pain in the ass haha...with my 91 i threw on some djm beams and then had to notch one to clear the oil pan, also you either need to notch the cross member under the engine or the beam or make new beam mounts to drop them lower but take into consideration if you do this the beam will angle more when the truck is dropped equalling more negative camber, you need to relocate your radius arms, news transmission crossmember, pull your fuel tank out of the stock location, also to lay on 2os your i beams are going to articulate back towards the firewall enough that you will have to cut off the mounts on the i beams and weld in some heim joints with misalignment spaces so you dont risk snapping a bolt. if you mount the bags on top of the outside of the i beam you will limit your turning radius so try to find a different way of doing it... like bags on radius arms or something but make sure to either redesign your radius arms or atleast plate them for additional strength...i  dont know how to post pics on here so if someone can pm me and show me ill post some, or pm me with your email address bro ---------------------------------------------thats a extremley good point about the ibeam articulateing back enough on 20s it could snap the dam bolt right off .Always thought of a way to stop that, welding on heim joints is a good suggestion.

Ya check out the dessert trucks that run I beams.  They have been running Heim joints there forever.  I wouldn't weld the joint on, i'd build new radius arms that accept a larger heim.  Do some searching around and you'll see what i'm talking about.

--------------------------------------------- Originally posted by UnusualFabrication Ya check out the dessert trucks that run I beams.  They have been running Heim joints there forever.  I wouldn't weld the joint on, i'd build new radius arms that accept a larger heim.  Do some searching around and you'll see what i'm talking about. --------------------------------------------- putting heim joints on the radius arms would do nothing for this problem.The radius arm is what pulls back on the beam and causes it to twist on the bolt. Maybe I am miss understanding what you trying to say. Are you shure you no how ibeam suspension works

Ya, I know how an I beam suspension works.  I've been around the block before......  If you re read his post about bagging on the radius arms he talks about plating them for strenght.  if you bag off the radius arm the bolt that goes though the two bushings under the cab can only go so far before it binds so you replace it with a larger heim so you can get more lift.  I know this because I have done it before.

Edited: 1/15/2009 5:20:04 PM by UnusualFabrication

You also have to address were the I-beam mounts which is what he is talking about.

--------------------------------------------- Originally posted by UnusualFabrication Edited: 1/15/2009 5:20:04 PM by UnusualFabrication You also have to address were the I-beam mounts which is what he is talking about. ---------------------------------------------Thats the only thing he was refering to when he talked about welding on the heim joint.The radius arm doesnt get binded up at all when traveling its the i beam that articulates back so far because the radius arm is pulling it back as the suspension goes up to far, then causing huge amount of stress on the bolt than holds the beam on if there was a heim joint on the end of the beam it would help this problem alot.