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2-link popularity?

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toadfrog17   +1y
Originally posted by sdime2372



yeah, well, i'm rubber you're glue. lol When i did the suspension, i did'nt know a whole lot about it. The 2 link was made for me by someone else, i just installed it. I have very limited welding skills, so he did all the metal and fab work, and i installed the 2 link. I've had absolutely no problems, i like the shit out of it. Yeah, if i could do it over, i'd probably go with the 4 link, but if it aint broke, don't fix it.

lol! Yeah if you like it then that's cool. Everybody has their opinions. I'm not trying to make anybody feel stupid or tell them their wrong or anything like that. As long as it works for you, and your comfortable with it.
STUD1Y   +1y
I've got a 9000 link set up.

that's better than all you fucks.


P.S i didn't realize we had so many resident mechanical engineers... why do you guys all still work at buger joints??!


BioMax   +1y
Okay, I can see that you guys are in love with your 2-links, but your opinions are misinforming.

As I have stated several times, the 2-link will work. The pro as cons are very lop-sided. The ONLY pros are cost and simplicity. The statement that you can't hit sides is being looked at all wrong. The suspension cannot articulate in the rear, but it can if the front, that causes an extremely unbalanced situation. When cornering, the vehicle leans to the outside of the corner (duh) and transfers weight to the outside tires adding traction to the loaded tires. In a situation where the chassis is not allowed to lean in the rear, the weight is transferred to the front tires only. This will cause the rear end to loose traction first causing an unstable condition called over steer. This is when the rear end "washes" out and you loose control of the vehicle. Also there was a statement made that the 2-link is better for traction... only if it set up exactly right for traction.

A wise man once stated that "any suspension will work perfectly as long as it doesn
dssur   +1y
two links will always work fine for people who dont investigate. There are always "seat of the pants" guys who use their butt dynos for measuring everything automotive. Other people will use them as long as people say "it worked for me".

I'm not saying the planet is going to collapse on itself if you use a two link. But the reason people sell them is because you can charge a lot for something easy to build and easy to install, its a retail win win. People like them because it doesnt really take any skill to build yourself or install in a 1/2 hour, and you dont have to move the gas tank. Really has nothing to do with how they work, looking at every picture of lifted trucks you can see how painful the pinion angles will be on u joints. But u joints are cheap right?

What I dont get is how people will agonize for months on the exact shade of color they want for their trucks, and spend thousands on chrome or billet wheels, and use a 1/2 hour to install their rear suspension.

The ultra long, flexible, 67-72 Chevy truck trailing arm suspension has absolutely nothing in common with the 1/4 wall box tubing people use for two links. There is no factory application that mimics what is used by minitruckers, and to say you put the same thought into the design as the tens of engineers who spend thousands of hours designing that truck suspension (that was outmoded in 1972 BTW)is really an insult to all their hard work.

If anyone took the time to read a suspension book, or a physics book, you would understand why you shouldnt use two links. But no one will, its easier to say "it worked for me" and never know.

Do whatever you want, locate your rear end with toasted marshmallows for all it matters to me. But easy doesnt mean better, some things are hard because they are worth it. Suspension design is one of those things to me.
dssur   +1y
haha to max posting while I was still proofreading!
STUD1Y   +1y
Originally posted by Russ-D



two links will always work fine for people who dont investigate. There are always "seat of the pants" guys who use their butt dynos for measuring everything automotive. Other people will use them as long as people say "it worked for me".

I'm not saying the planet is going to collapse on itself if you use a two link. But the reason people sell them is because you can charge a lot for something easy to build and easy to install, its a retail win win. People like them because it doesnt really take any skill to build yourself or install in a 1/2 hour, and you dont have to move the gas tank. Really has nothing to do with how they work, looking at every picture of lifted trucks you can see how painful the pinion angles will be on u joints. But u joints are cheap right?

What I dont get is how people will agonize for months on the exact shade of color they want for their trucks, and spend thousands on chrome or billet wheels, and use a 1/2 hour to install their rear suspension.

The ultra long, flexible, 67-72 Chevy truck trailing arm suspension has absolutely nothing in common with the 1/4 wall box tubing people use for two links. There is no factory application that mimics what is used by minitruckers, and to say you put the same thought into the design as the tens of engineers who spend thousands of hours designing that truck suspension (that was outmoded in 1972 BTW)is really an insult to all their hard work.

If anyone took the time to read a suspension book, or a physics book, you would understand why you shouldnt use two links. But no one will, its easier to say "it worked for me" and never know.

Do whatever you want, locate your rear end with toasted marshmallows for all it matters to me. But easy doesnt mean better, some things are hard because they are worth it. Suspension design is one of those things to me.

Toasted marshmallows give you really good articulation. right?

BioMax   +1y
nicley put Russ...

I love the "butt dyno"
Uncle Fester   +1y
Where can I get one of those butt dynos, they sound like they would do a great job with testing the designs out there.
BagdX   +1y
Some more cons of the 2link. That nice crack that you get on top of your bedsides were your tailgate or skin is welded in. Thats caused by the 2link not allowing the suspension to flex, so it trasfers all the force to the frame and the nice smooth bed you just spend a butt load on. This applies to the roll pan also. Another con is the nice wet spots on your axle tubes where the 2link mounts to the axle pad. Thats your factory or welded on axle pad being ripped off of the axle tube. Just a few more things to think about, before you install that 2link. Ohh and that 2link bar that is around 30" long that you get 16" of lift. Yeah that equals 30 degrees of pinion anlgle change.....
grip   +1y
Beat it in the dirt a little more.If it comes down to it control arms or struts in the rear would be better than a four link.All your doing is arguing facts with biased opinions.Of course you prefer a four link max you build them everyday and your standards have progressed for many years.I like the two link.It gives people with a small budget a safe way to bag there truck.Lets face the facts I would rather ride next to a two link truck with the factory hangers than a four link welded badly.Not to mention the average minitrucker hasn't spent years with suspention theory.The point I am trying to make is I have seen more four links that scared me than two.Simple=safe
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