whats everyones beliefs?

lol Lalunette. I personally don't care about "paradise" as most think it will be, nor "the flames of Hell". I simply love my God. I can't wait to be with Him and have the mysteries of the universes shared. I can't wait to feel the love that closely, etc. I don't care about the streets of gold, walls of jewels, etc. Honestly it's kinda hard for me to explain the way I feel.


Anywho, you're talking about Revelation somewhere Hex. I personally stay away from the "fire and brimstone" preaching myself. I know it's there and it reaches a lot of people, but that's not why I follow Christ, so I try to share God's love with people instead of focusing on the "other side" of things lol.

lol calm down Lalunette Hey btw is your name Richard, like in your sig? Can I just call you that lol...or maybe Lalu


And wow, with all the limbo and purgatory talk lol, that really does show your Catholic upbringing I promise ya I differ on all of those things you mention except for Heaven and Hell.

Richard is fine... just don't call me Dick.

Eh, it is a touchy thing to talk about with non-belivers. I do not judge you at all. You will be judged by God and him only. No man can tell you the weight of your work!

I'm not saying you will go to hell or heaven... I would like to say to you that this life we live now, is not the life we are to live permanently. It is our temp. life! When we speak of heaven, it is our permanent home and our rejoicing with the Lord. Jewels, gold roads, rewards for our work from this life is just a bonus to having eternal life.

We are here only for giving God his glory and spreading his word. I wish your views would change, but thats all your decision. I'm okay, because I tried...

There is no trick to "scaring" you about heaven and hell! There is no luck with whether or not you go to heaven. It is all based on your acceptance of Christ. Thats all it takes!

I think IMHO Catholic churches are horrible! I think its made things worse. How could you believe in the idea of confessing your sins to man for repentance? If you think about it, when God is omnipotent, he can hear your thoughts, and you confess to directly him!

Catholic church IMO is a place that I feel would tell you if you don't wear a good shirt and tie, you'll go to hell! Its a bunch of crap!

If your baby was born and died a few days later, God is'nt going to hold it accountable for the ooriginal sin! I would think so atleast! God is a being of mercy and he understands our tribulations, and only he can weigh our faults and achievements!

I speak not on here to try and force anything down your throat or scare you. I simply speak truth, and educate you like you educate me! Ignorance is bliss, and experience is wisdom!

Did anyone see South Park last night on Mormons? Too funny. I feel the same about all religion, believe anything you want no religion can prove theirs is true or even happened. Thats why its called a "belief" because you believe its true. Its just a book of stories.

I went to a really good Catholic church for a few months. I loved the priest there, and some of the people. Speaking bluntly with our Priest there, I came to understand things about confession and "praying to Mary/the saints" that maybe not all mainstream Catholic churches agree on, but I now fully understood.

He explained confession as a way for those who find it hard to just accept forgiveness through prayer to "feel as though they had recieved it" through their confession to the Priest there. Pentance was a way to help them feel they had done something for their sin.

Prayer to Mary/or the Saints was similar to me calling you guys and asking you to pray for me. It wasn't a "workaround" Jesus, or to elevate said persons above Jesus, it was almost like a prayer partner. He didn't say all this in the same words, but it's how I understood it.

Nothing compares imo to the reverance of Christ in the Catholic church...atleast the one we went to. I liked the Holy Water at the door, the bowing before sitting, the knealing benches. I like the fact the doors were open 24/7.

I don't believe Catholics aren't Christians either...as a lot of people here in the south believe.

I don't watch South Park Not that I haven't seen them or actually watched one or 2 late at night lol, but I don't make it a point to watch it. I'm not real big in "bashing" type comedies...even stand up's I don't hardly watch anymore because they've all gotten so synical about everything.

Throw on some Bill Cosby, Himself, lol and I'll watch from beginning to end lol. Sorry...had to say it

all i know is i am going to cut the god damn bell off the church up the road from me.

i've lived here for over 15 years and recently the stupid bell starts dinging every sunday on my only day off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So here's a question for all of the believers out there....if you had not been raised in a religious household....do you think you would believe in and in the same way, god as you do now??

And apart from a bok about a group written by that group, what gives you your FAITH.

faith is as stated in wikopedia
Belief in a proposition or belief system without proof (e.g. "I have faith that God exists.").

or Faith exists in opposition to rationalistic thought. It can refer to any of a number of ideas, including


faith is basically belief in something you cannot substantiate....you believe because someone told you to believe.


Nazi's were told by hitler that they were the master race and therefore all otheres who opposed him must be dealt with so to speak, and hundreds of thousands of people had FAITH in him


people had blind faith in the likes of david koresh, and the branch dividians, hudderites have faith that multiple wives and interbreeding are the right way of life because they were raised that way.....

AND JUST FOR REFERENCE, I AM NOT SAYING ANYTHING THAT MEANS CHRISTIANS ARE INBREADS OR NAZIS, just making a statement on faith.

For me, I wasn't brought up in church really. Niether of my parents practiced Christianity. My grandparents went to church, and sometimes we would...I thought just so we could go eat with them afterwards lol...it's what we did

At 8yrs old I wanted to go to a VBS at a church I had never been in before, with no one else I knew planned to be there. It was there that I was given the choice the first time and had the Salvation plan explained to me...along with a group of kids. Glad we did cuz I bout drowned on the trip lol.

Needless to say, I didn't practice the faith after that and still had no clue about it. But I always just knew there was a God. There were times I'd cry out to Him about stupid things....like cuz I didn't get something I wanted NOW . There's just always been "something" in me that told me there's a God, and I've always felt there has to be a Creator.

I hadn't been to a church in many years. Then the night I went to see my wife for the first time, after I left, I stopped by "her" church and knelt on the front steps and thanked God for giving me her....this was after our first date lol.

Now, even after that I didn't practice the faith really. Yeah I went to church with her, but I didn't start a relationship with Christ, read the Bible or really give Him the time of day. I was still drinking, cursing, etc. BUt gradually I begain to want more of God...it was an inside hunger, not a mental thing at all.

Well after our first 3 yrs of marriage and all the drinking and crap that alcohol causes, including extramarital relations, He just started working on me. I was the "weekend partier, and weekday Christian". I could give some good sermons to my friends while I was drunk lol.

Idk, eventually I took God serious and realized that without Him, I was dead. I eventually started trying to work on my relationship with Him, and the only way to really start was to say "ok Lord, here's my life, you do with it as you will." And I think He's doing it...somehow . I've now been a volunteer youth counselor for about 8 yrs for my church, and I have a desperation in my heart for all people to come to Christ.

I've never witnessed the "miracle" things like a lot of believers have. The speaking in tongues, healings, etc. really. The thing I've seen the most that I consider miracles, are the times He's changed lives. I've seen the awesome power of God pull people out of the deepest mire of sin and into a great relationship with Him. Until you really feel the power of God in your life, you won't understand it. It's hard to explain it lol.


For me the evidence of a creator is all around us. We ourselves are way to complex of a being to have just had all the complexities come from an accident, or evolution (darwinian idea). Everything we have is set on the razor's edge of perfect balance. That doesn't happen by accident.


As for the examples you lsit above, if these people would have read and followed their Bible themselves, they wouldn't have been duped by someone telling them things that are not of God in the first place. All the evils in Christian history goes back to a lack of people's knowledge of God's Word, a lack of a real relationship, prayer life, etc. with Him.

Real quick reply here... how can I be judged by something I believe is non-existent?

Also, why do believers think that non-believers will be impacted or care about what "God" thinks of them when non-believers don't, eerr, "believe" in a deity?

Obviously you believe in a god... I don't... so whatever you say about me being judged by your god has zero impact on me. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, I'm saying that you need to understand that I don't give a flip about anything religious... it gives me more time to work on my Mazda.